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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 963179" data-attributes="member: 9824">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: reWell, you can now get ITWF at level 6 of a fighting class, instead of level 9.  And GTWF at level 11 (I don't know what the prerequisites for it are in MotW, which I don't have).  So your guys won't have to wait as long for it, if they want to try it.A light-armored fighter with a chain shirt +2 and an 18 Dex has an AC of 20.  Two weapon defense apparently gives +1 to AC, though I have no idea what the prerequisites are.  And there's Expertise.  And Duellist is now a core PrC.  Rings of Protection.  The Shield spell.I'm not sad to see scenarios in which it's helpful to have a decent AC.  From some of the stuff I've read on this board, I get the impression that there are games out there in which everybody hits all the time.  If there are mechanical incentives to making defense important, I'm cautiously for them.Hey, glad to be of service.  Hope it works out for you.</blockquote>