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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Droogie" data-source="post: 769991" data-attributes="member: 1298">re: the d8 hd----- when I heard that it was dropping to this in 3.5e, I balked. Then it started to grow on me as I realized that a ranger is more of a scout than a front-line fighter. If his BAB progression is better than a druid, then he's still a reasonably good fighter, right? Well then I realized that if you want to go along with the 2-w fighting path, you are most likely going to be in the front line anyway. With studded leather. And no shield. And a d8 for a hit-die. Noooo thank you. I have a feeling if 3.5 goes with the d8, the 2-w fighting ranger will become pretty rare. re: "virtual feats":  Kill them. Please. Just give him the dang feat already. AS of now, if I want to create Little John, I need to take the REAL 2-w fighting feat and the REAL ambidex feat to use a quarter-staff as a double weapon. re: combat style paths:I've mentioned this in the last thread that dealt with this subject.  Wouldn't it be easier to just give him a few extra feats from a selected list? Or better yet, a few extra feats but any feat he wants? Rangers are resourceful after all. We hated it when he was pigeon-holed into a 2-w fighter. The archer path, while closer to what people imagine a ranger to be, still only gives him one more pigeon hole. Gee, thanks for the free manyshot feat, but can I use it with a crossbow? What if I want to make a character like William Tell?Some feel stripping the ranger of his combat style strips away his flavor. I don't feel that way. What makes a ranger is his outdoorsey-ness.  The only class that ceases to be when you strip it of its fighting style is the monk.</blockquote>

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