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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 966404" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>Well, I think the issue then was a lot of people <em>knew</em> that the system was bent. They knew a lot of big changes were on the way, but many of them were sorely needed.</p><p></p><p>But to an extent, yes. On rgfd, many things were hotly debated. Common issues were:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Why bring assassins back?" (I was a big advocate of that one... glad to see they got booted out of core class land...)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Barbarians are just fighters with the right feats, aren't they?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Only roll initiative once at the beginning of combat, are you crazy?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">They can pry speed factors out of my cold dead hands...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why do rangers have two weapon fighting? Must all rangers be drizzt? (this one lives on...)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">yadda yadda.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Most of these issues were eventually accepted by most people. It was a big adjustment, though.</p><p></p><p>That said, I (and I imagine, some others) don't see 3e as in desperate need of repair as 2e was, so find some of the changes much less warranted. I imagine like some of the above issues, I'll grow into some changes. </p><p></p><p>But others, I will continue to think were the wrong idea. Perhaps I'll change my mind in a few years, but I do not have as much faith in the current design team as I did the 3.0 design team.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 966404, member: 172"] Well, I think the issue then was a lot of people [i]knew[/i] that the system was bent. They knew a lot of big changes were on the way, but many of them were sorely needed. But to an extent, yes. On rgfd, many things were hotly debated. Common issues were: [list][*]"Why bring assassins back?" (I was a big advocate of that one... glad to see they got booted out of core class land...) [*]"Barbarians are just fighters with the right feats, aren't they? [*]Only roll initiative once at the beginning of combat, are you crazy? [*]They can pry speed factors out of my cold dead hands... [*]Why do rangers have two weapon fighting? Must all rangers be drizzt? (this one lives on...) [*]yadda yadda.[/list] Most of these issues were eventually accepted by most people. It was a big adjustment, though. That said, I (and I imagine, some others) don't see 3e as in desperate need of repair as 2e was, so find some of the changes much less warranted. I imagine like some of the above issues, I'll grow into some changes. But others, I will continue to think were the wrong idea. Perhaps I'll change my mind in a few years, but I do not have as much faith in the current design team as I did the 3.0 design team. [/QUOTE]
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