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<blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 933473" data-attributes="member: 5868">So what I hear you saying is: while you know what wrong looks like, you don't know what right looks like.&nbsp; You dislike the druid's weapon list because it's based on arbitrary flavor restrictions, but you don't have a suggestion for what the weapon list should be with the flavor restrictions removed.&nbsp; Very constructive criticism, that.IMO, all weapon restrictions are essentially arbitrary and exist for balance purposes only.&nbsp; If you look at the 3.5 druid weapon list, you'll notice there's no &quot;flavor&quot; reason given in the text for the weapon restriction (unlike the armor restriction).&nbsp; It just is.&nbsp; Since the authors aren't trying to justify the weapon list with any particular reasoning, I'm absolutely fine with it as is.&nbsp; Why isn't the bow (or insert other weapon) on the list?&nbsp; Because it isn't -- it's arbitrary.&nbsp; I'd recommend Simple Weapon Proficiency as a mechanically simpler solution, but I'm not up in arms about it.&nbsp; The real point I'm trying to make is that if you're going to criticize something, it gives your argument more weight if you suggest a viable alternative.&nbsp; Saying &quot;This sucks!&quot; or, &quot;This sucks because of X&quot; isn't nearly as persuasive as: &quot;This sucks because of X, but if it were Y instead, it would be better because of Z.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Olgar Shiverstone, post: 933473, member: 5868"] So what I hear you saying is: while you know what wrong looks like, you don't know what right looks like. You dislike the druid's weapon list because it's based on arbitrary flavor restrictions, but you don't have a suggestion for what the weapon list should be with the flavor restrictions removed. Very constructive criticism, that. IMO, all weapon restrictions are essentially arbitrary and exist for balance purposes only. If you look at the 3.5 druid weapon list, you'll notice there's no "flavor" reason given in the text for the weapon restriction (unlike the armor restriction). It just is. Since the authors aren't trying to justify the weapon list with any particular reasoning, I'm absolutely fine with it as is. Why isn't the bow (or insert other weapon) on the list? Because it isn't -- it's arbitrary. I'd recommend Simple Weapon Proficiency as a mechanically simpler solution, but I'm not up in arms about it. The real point I'm trying to make is that if you're going to criticize something, it gives your argument more weight if you suggest a viable alternative. Saying "This sucks!" or, "This sucks because of X" isn't nearly as persuasive as: "This sucks because of X, but if it were Y instead, it would be better because of Z." [/QUOTE]

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