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<blockquote data-quote="TheRaven" data-source="post: 938090" data-attributes="member: 12414">My dear friends. I'd like to write down only one word here about the new wildshape, that has been overlooked so far:attack routineOk, two words actually. However, old D&amp;D 3E fans like myself might remember the history of polymorph/wildshape but for those not familiar with it, let's take a look at it.1. D&amp;D 3E PHB first printingWildshape works like polymorph. Attack routine is gained. Wizards and sorcerer polymorphing themselves into Marilith and other &quot;popular&quot; creatures, unleashing hell. Druids happy with their animals.2. D&amp;D 3E PHB second printingWildshape works like polymorph. Attack routine is a no no. Restrictions to creature types and other stuff. Mages still happy with polymorph due to other weaknesses with that darn spell. Druids not happy. Why should they ? The best&nbsp; ability of animals IS the attack routine. The idea of WotC, that wildshape should be a way to help out druids in combat is nothing more than a mere joke.3. D&amp;D 3E Tome&amp;BloodWildshape like polymorph. Still. Damn. Polymorph was a little bit changed to fix the still existing &quot;exploits&quot;. Mages are now ok with the spell. As it should be. Druids jumping from bridges not wanting to live anymore. But wait, there is hope. MotW is to be released soon.4. D&amp;D 3E Masters of the WildWildshape like ... wait a second. Ha, wildshape stand alone. Hey, they actually reacted to the bridge jumping druids. Oh joy. You get attack routine as well as the other stuff you are supposed to have. Mages don't care. Druids happy. Ok, they are mostly happy anyway because of their &quot;special&quot; herbs if you know what I'm talking about.5. D&amp;D 3E PHB 3.5Wildshape like polymorph. Hmm, oooook. Attack routine ? We'll have to wait and see but I think Druids could become unhappy again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheRaven, post: 938090, member: 12414"] My dear friends. I'd like to write down only one word here about the new wildshape, that has been overlooked so far: attack routine Ok, two words actually. However, old D&D 3E fans like myself might remember the history of polymorph/wildshape but for those not familiar with it, let's take a look at it. 1. D&D 3E PHB first printing Wildshape works like polymorph. Attack routine is gained. Wizards and sorcerer polymorphing themselves into Marilith and other "popular" creatures, unleashing hell. Druids happy with their animals. 2. D&D 3E PHB second printing Wildshape works like polymorph. Attack routine is a no no. Restrictions to creature types and other stuff. Mages still happy with polymorph due to other weaknesses with that darn spell. Druids not happy. Why should they ? The best ability of animals IS the attack routine. The idea of WotC, that wildshape should be a way to help out druids in combat is nothing more than a mere joke. 3. D&D 3E Tome&Blood Wildshape like polymorph. Still. Damn. Polymorph was a little bit changed to fix the still existing "exploits". Mages are now ok with the spell. As it should be. Druids jumping from bridges not wanting to live anymore. But wait, there is hope. MotW is to be released soon. 4. D&D 3E Masters of the Wild Wildshape like ... wait a second. Ha, wildshape stand alone. Hey, they actually reacted to the bridge jumping druids. Oh joy. You get attack routine as well as the other stuff you are supposed to have. Mages don't care. Druids happy. Ok, they are mostly happy anyway because of their "special" herbs if you know what I'm talking about. 5. D&D 3E PHB 3.5 Wildshape like polymorph. Hmm, oooook. Attack routine ? We'll have to wait and see but I think Druids could become unhappy again. [/QUOTE]

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