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[3.5] Rule question: Setting sun throws, trip and the word "resolve"
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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6465084" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Having now checked Bo9S, it is indeed the case that there's no AoO and your opponent doesn't get to try to trip you back if you fail. So that's about what I'd expected.</p><p></p><p>I actually think your assertion in the first post is wrong - I think you <em>can</em> trip an opponent that is already prone; it's just that there's no benefit in doing so (since he's already prone, and there's no notion of being "extra prone" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). In any case, I'd certainly allow the use of such powers on prone opponents.</p><p></p><p>However, technically speaking, I don't think these powers work on oozes or creatures like snakes (that is, creatures immune to being tripped). Because these powers "resolve as trip attempts", and since they don't give any indication of bypassing the immunity that these creatures enjoy, it does appear they're still immune. But you should <em>definitely</em> try that out on your DM, because he may very well go for it - I would, because as you say you can clearly envisage thowing a snake! (Though I'd rule such creatures don't become prone, as that condition doesn't make sense for these creatures.) Sadly, though, if he's determined to go absolutely by RAW, I fear you're SOL.</p><p></p><p>(But I'd absolutely be open to being corrected on that one - I'm not 100% certain of my interpretation.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6465084, member: 22424"] Having now checked Bo9S, it is indeed the case that there's no AoO and your opponent doesn't get to try to trip you back if you fail. So that's about what I'd expected. I actually think your assertion in the first post is wrong - I think you [i]can[/i] trip an opponent that is already prone; it's just that there's no benefit in doing so (since he's already prone, and there's no notion of being "extra prone" :) ). In any case, I'd certainly allow the use of such powers on prone opponents. However, technically speaking, I don't think these powers work on oozes or creatures like snakes (that is, creatures immune to being tripped). Because these powers "resolve as trip attempts", and since they don't give any indication of bypassing the immunity that these creatures enjoy, it does appear they're still immune. But you should [i]definitely[/i] try that out on your DM, because he may very well go for it - I would, because as you say you can clearly envisage thowing a snake! (Though I'd rule such creatures don't become prone, as that condition doesn't make sense for these creatures.) Sadly, though, if he's determined to go absolutely by RAW, I fear you're SOL. (But I'd absolutely be open to being corrected on that one - I'm not 100% certain of my interpretation.) [/QUOTE]
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