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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 938274" data-attributes="member: 713">Rogue changesIt looks to me as if Uncanny Dodge requires a higher level than it did before. I think it used to come in at levels 3 and 6.The rogue is heavily dependent on their Dex for AC. I don't understand why this was changed.It appears to me that the Ranger is now the king of stealth and scouting. They can get Hide in Plain Sight, Camouflage, have almost as many skill points as a rogue, and better BAB and hit points.Unless it is important for your character to find traps (something that I consider a truely thankless job), there is considerably less reason to take rogue.The Trap Sense will help somewhat for the Rogue to survive a trap that goes off, and the bonus goes much higher than before, but I *really* don't find that much *fun*. All it does is reduce the chance of you surviving a failure, it doesn't make it any easier for you to defeat the trap.[ Edit: Formatting and removing extraneous quoted text. ]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bret, post: 938274, member: 713"] [b]Rogue changes[/b] It looks to me as if Uncanny Dodge requires a higher level than it did before. I think it used to come in at levels 3 and 6. The rogue is heavily dependent on their Dex for AC. I don't understand why this was changed. It appears to me that the Ranger is now the king of stealth and scouting. They can get Hide in Plain Sight, Camouflage, have almost as many skill points as a rogue, and better BAB and hit points. Unless it is important for your character to find traps (something that I consider a truely thankless job), there is considerably less reason to take rogue. The Trap Sense will help somewhat for the Rogue to survive a trap that goes off, and the bonus goes much higher than before, but I *really* don't find that much *fun*. All it does is reduce the chance of you surviving a failure, it doesn't make it any easier for you to defeat the trap. [ [i]Edit: Formatting and removing extraneous quoted text. [/i] ] [/QUOTE]

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