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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5479445" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>Here's the <a href="http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=357.0" target="_blank">ToB guide</a>. Turns out I was googling the wrong title for a bit. I also found a <a href="http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10996.0" target="_blank">Guide to Stealthy Characters</a>, which I think you will find useful.</p><p></p><p>The following consists of things in response to your post</p><p>[sblock]</p><p>Not sure that's possible for a man in my position <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />.</p><p></p><p>Yeah... we call it Fighters Can't Have Nice Things syndrome.</p><p></p><p>Kinda an odd argument though. Paladins get spells and Monks get spell-like abilities. Fighters can take feats (from the PHB2) to light their fists on fire.</p><p></p><p>You may find this useful if you need to talk to him: doing 100 damage in 1 strike seems powerful, but at level 20, a well built strength based melee character should be able to exceed that on a full attack. Some charging based builds can hit that number at around level 12 on a charge. It's not really as bad as it seems.</p><p></p><p>That is how the designers thought, but I do not think the game agrees with that point of view. If you wish to talk to him, this analogy may be helpful.</p><p></p><p>It is not the pole vaulter who can vault all day who wins the Olympics, but the one who can leap over the bar, even if it is only a few times per day. </p><p></p><p>Having infinite attacks is great but they have to be capable of affecting the enemy to matter, and most of the time a fighter won't unless he's very well built. And I mean very. As in, with 18 levels of Warblade.</p><p></p><p>This isn't just my opinion. Pretty much the entire reputable population of WotC's character optimization forum hold it, and they're the people who figure out ways to break the game for fun.</p><p></p><p>Honestly not sure if words will convince him. Maybe you should get a neutral party to DM a game and invite your current DM to play a ToB character in it while you play... a Druid?</p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5479445, member: 85158"] Here's the [URL="http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=357.0"]ToB guide[/URL]. Turns out I was googling the wrong title for a bit. I also found a [URL="http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10996.0"]Guide to Stealthy Characters[/URL], which I think you will find useful. The following consists of things in response to your post [sblock] Not sure that's possible for a man in my position :p. Yeah... we call it Fighters Can't Have Nice Things syndrome. Kinda an odd argument though. Paladins get spells and Monks get spell-like abilities. Fighters can take feats (from the PHB2) to light their fists on fire. You may find this useful if you need to talk to him: doing 100 damage in 1 strike seems powerful, but at level 20, a well built strength based melee character should be able to exceed that on a full attack. Some charging based builds can hit that number at around level 12 on a charge. It's not really as bad as it seems. That is how the designers thought, but I do not think the game agrees with that point of view. If you wish to talk to him, this analogy may be helpful. It is not the pole vaulter who can vault all day who wins the Olympics, but the one who can leap over the bar, even if it is only a few times per day. Having infinite attacks is great but they have to be capable of affecting the enemy to matter, and most of the time a fighter won't unless he's very well built. And I mean very. As in, with 18 levels of Warblade. This isn't just my opinion. Pretty much the entire reputable population of WotC's character optimization forum hold it, and they're the people who figure out ways to break the game for fun. Honestly not sure if words will convince him. Maybe you should get a neutral party to DM a game and invite your current DM to play a ToB character in it while you play... a Druid? [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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