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3.5 ShielMaster/Crusader worth for tanking?
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<blockquote data-quote="cjosephs1s" data-source="post: 5734874" data-attributes="member: 6683450"><p>The more I read the more confused I get at what this toon is. So you want to be a 1h weapon + shield up front in your face melee that uses dex based fighting that casts spells from a distance and uses a crossbow??? </p><p> </p><p> So lets see that means you need a good dex, con, str and cha score. </p><p> </p><p>How many levels of Sorc are you planning on taking?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Where do you put your weapon and shield when your using your crossbow? </p><p> </p><p>Normally you would get 7 feats (8 if human) and so far you have used EWP, Improved shield Bash, Somantic Weaponry, Grant Extra Manuever (it feels like I'm missing one or two in here) which leaves you at most 4 feats left. So far your feats haven't done anything to help you out in any way other than Improved shield bash. </p><p> </p><p>When you take those levels of sorcerer you really need to not wear any armor or use shields due to Arcane spell failure (unless there's something out there that helps negate this) 50% chance with tower shields. Which means you're going to be really easy to hit and probably really hard to cast spells and those levels are only going to give a d4 HP. Lowering your overall effectiveness as an upfront melee fighter/protector. </p><p> </p><p>You said earlier you are a specialist but this toon is all over the place. </p><p> </p><p>My advice is to forget the sorcerer part entirely. I'd say for a build like this its feat intensive. You need good armor (which means heavy armor), A tower shield, lots of HP, reach, decent damage, and lots of feats. I'd go with a fighter build..maybe even warblade. There maybe other classes out there but right now those two are coming to mind that meet the criteria above. </p><p> </p><p>Also I remember a feat called Goad (Complete Adventurer). Basically its forces a monster to make melee attacks against you if it fails the save.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cjosephs1s, post: 5734874, member: 6683450"] The more I read the more confused I get at what this toon is. So you want to be a 1h weapon + shield up front in your face melee that uses dex based fighting that casts spells from a distance and uses a crossbow??? So lets see that means you need a good dex, con, str and cha score. How many levels of Sorc are you planning on taking? Where do you put your weapon and shield when your using your crossbow? Normally you would get 7 feats (8 if human) and so far you have used EWP, Improved shield Bash, Somantic Weaponry, Grant Extra Manuever (it feels like I'm missing one or two in here) which leaves you at most 4 feats left. So far your feats haven't done anything to help you out in any way other than Improved shield bash. When you take those levels of sorcerer you really need to not wear any armor or use shields due to Arcane spell failure (unless there's something out there that helps negate this) 50% chance with tower shields. Which means you're going to be really easy to hit and probably really hard to cast spells and those levels are only going to give a d4 HP. Lowering your overall effectiveness as an upfront melee fighter/protector. You said earlier you are a specialist but this toon is all over the place. My advice is to forget the sorcerer part entirely. I'd say for a build like this its feat intensive. You need good armor (which means heavy armor), A tower shield, lots of HP, reach, decent damage, and lots of feats. I'd go with a fighter build..maybe even warblade. There maybe other classes out there but right now those two are coming to mind that meet the criteria above. Also I remember a feat called Goad (Complete Adventurer). Basically its forces a monster to make melee attacks against you if it fails the save. [/QUOTE]
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