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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1066925" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>...and DMs. An NPC wizard with the <em>sleep</em> spell can be nasty.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that they shouldn't be the deciding factor, but that doesn't mean they should be useless.</p><p></p><p>Compare 1st level spells to, say, 3rd level ones. Which scale better with level? Why should there be a difference in their "scalability"? (Not power. It's clear 3rd level spells should be more powerful at any caster level.)</p><p></p><p>Compare <em>sleep</em> to <em>charm person</em>. Which is more scalable? Which is more useless at higher levels (above 6th)? Which is more over-powered at 1st level, even with the 3.5e revision?</p><p></p><p><em>Sleep</em> is poorly designed.....and it's been made worse (even silly) by 3.5e.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhm....what, exactly are you saying? That Deep Slumber is named according to the naming convensions of 3.5e? It's not, you know. I assume this is just a mis-type. No worries; I mis-type all the time....check my sig.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhm......huh? You've lost me here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1066925, member: 224"] ...and DMs. An NPC wizard with the [i]sleep[/i] spell can be nasty. I agree that they shouldn't be the deciding factor, but that doesn't mean they should be useless. Compare 1st level spells to, say, 3rd level ones. Which scale better with level? Why should there be a difference in their "scalability"? (Not power. It's clear 3rd level spells should be more powerful at any caster level.) Compare [i]sleep[/i] to [i]charm person[/i]. Which is more scalable? Which is more useless at higher levels (above 6th)? Which is more over-powered at 1st level, even with the 3.5e revision? [i]Sleep[/i] is poorly designed.....and it's been made worse (even silly) by 3.5e. Uhm....what, exactly are you saying? That Deep Slumber is named according to the naming convensions of 3.5e? It's not, you know. I assume this is just a mis-type. No worries; I mis-type all the time....check my sig. Uhm......huh? You've lost me here. [/QUOTE]
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