D&D 3E/3.5 3.5 song dragon? (now, other dragon class skills, too)

[freyar]

Does anyone know if there is a 3.5 update of the song dragon (Monsters of Faerun) floating around the web somewhere? Apparently there is nothing from WotC, at least according to their own list. Failing that, what class skills should a song dragon have in addition to the ones all dragons get (MoF doesn't list separate class skills for the entries)?

 

[Echohawk]

The song dragon got a 3.5 update here.

 

[Echohawk]

And to save you the download, the update looks like this:

Dragon, Song: Dragon (air); young adult 5/magic; mature adult 10/magic; very old 15/magic; wyrm 20/magic; LA wyrmling +5, very young +5, young +5, juvenile +6. Refer to Monster Manual entry on true dragons for introductory material; increase Challenge Rating at each age category by +1.
Skills: Bluff, Disguise, and Jump are considered class skills for song dragons. These are in addition to the skills noted in the Monster Manual as class skills for all dragons. See the Monster Manual glossary for Alternate Form ability.

 

[freyar]

You know, I have that printed out, shoulda remembered it.

Such boring class skills, though. I want perform! Maybe I'll just house rule it.

 

[BOZ]

it sounds like a solid idea.

 

[freyar]

I actually looked back through Draconomicon and realized that the battle dragon has perform as a class skill. As having a planar dragon wandering around Faerun gives me some plot hooks (hehe, it's a friend of someone who ends up as a dragon shaman), I think I'll stick with the battle dragon.

 

[freyar]

Are all true dragons supposed to get 3 class skills (in addition to the ones all true dragons have)? Just noticed that the planar dragons in Draconomicon don't seem to get them. If so, do you know if anyone has listed any (or shall I)?

 

[freyar]

Planar Dragon Class Skills

Just for giggles, here are my guesses at class skills for the planar dragons from Draconomicon:

Battle Dragon: Perform (already in the stats) (Diplomacy & Concentration are already class skills for dragons, oops!)
Chaos Dragon: Bluff, Hide, Move Silently
Ethereal Dragon: Appraise, Hide
Howling Dragon: Bluff, Move Silently
Oceanus Dragon: Survival, Swim
Pyroclastic Dragon: Bluff, Jump
Radiant Dragon: Heal
Rust Dragon: Knowledge (dungeoneering), Move Silently, Survival

More to come!

 

[BOZ]

Are all true dragons supposed to get 3 class skills (in addition to the ones all true dragons have)?

i'm not sure if it's 3, but as far as i know, yes true dragons in the MM do get "extra" class skills.

 

[freyar]

i'm not sure if it's 3, but as far as i know, yes true dragons in the MM do get "extra" class skills.

Just went back and checked the actual MM. All the MM true dragons get 3 extra class skills, but the overview doesn't specify how many each type of dragon should have.

PS. I'm doing these to work out alternate dragon shaman totem dragons, since the dragon shaman gets some class skills based on the totem. Check the link in my sig if interested!