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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4594032" data-attributes="member: 19675">See, here we go in circles again.&nbsp; As I said before, just because it isn't listed under the heading &quot;Mind Blade,&quot; doesn't mean that other language within the class description regarding the Mind Blade is without effect.&nbsp; The oft-quoted section on the bonus feat reads:IMHO, that's as good and effective as the aforementioned language in the PHB prohibiting the expenditure of XP in amounts to drop a class level when creating items is fully effective in modifying the Item Creation rules in the DMG.&nbsp; Its at least in the same entry and book as the rest of the relevant language about the class.&nbsp; (Or do you ignore that language in the PHB?)The language's placement within the entry doesn't matter.&nbsp; If the second sentence of the Soulknife entry had been: &quot;Manifesting a mind blade requires PP, which the Soulknife gets from his bonus feat, Wild Talent.&quot; it would be just as effective as if it appeared under the &quot;Mind Blade&quot; section...unless we use your logic.Is it awkward?&nbsp; Sure, but its no more awkward than a lot of drafting and editing decisions WotC's made over the years.Heck, its much less awkward than 4Ed's waiting a couple of hundred pages in its PHB to define the &quot;W&quot; for weapon damage that pops up in so many class power descriptions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4594032, member: 19675"] See, here we go in circles again. As I said before, just because it isn't listed under the heading "Mind Blade," doesn't mean that other language within the class description regarding the Mind Blade is without effect. The oft-quoted section on the bonus feat reads: IMHO, that's as good and effective as the aforementioned language in the PHB prohibiting the expenditure of XP in amounts to drop a class level when creating items is fully effective in modifying the Item Creation rules in the DMG. Its at least in the same [I]entry and book[/I] as the rest of the relevant language about the class. (Or do you ignore that language in the PHB?) The language's placement within the entry doesn't matter. If the second sentence of the Soulknife entry had been: "Manifesting a mind blade requires PP, which the Soulknife gets from his bonus feat, Wild Talent." it would be just as effective as if it appeared under the "Mind Blade" section...unless we use your logic. Is it awkward? Sure, but its no more awkward than a lot of drafting and editing decisions WotC's made over the years. Heck, its much less awkward than 4Ed's waiting a couple of hundred pages in its PHB to define the "W" for weapon damage that pops up in so many class power descriptions. [/QUOTE]

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