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<blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2735620" data-attributes="member: 27431">The point was simple as stated on the previous page: all d8 wizard spells got turned into d6's. Shocking grasp, horrid wilting for example. But there was no similar reduction of the damage dice of clerical spells. All those spells to &quot;fit the progression&quot; should be d6s. But they weren't changed to d6s. Hence bias. Well I don't think so and neither do the previous editions of D&amp;D. I don't think it's balanced, at all, to have direct elemental damage not have SR. Indirect non-elemental damage, Evard's black tentacles, reverse gravity and similar is perfectly fine. The bluring of concepts where people start claiming &quot;I evoke a ball of flame and it hurts you&quot; vs. &quot;I conjure a burning mist and it hurts you, but this is special burning mist that hurts you differently than that ball of flame&quot;&nbsp; really doesn't fly for me. Just because it's a conjuration doesn't mean it's not, in the end, direct elemental damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DungeonMaster, post: 2735620, member: 27431"] The point was simple as stated on the previous page: all d8 wizard spells got turned into d6's. Shocking grasp, horrid wilting for example. But there was no similar reduction of the damage dice of clerical spells. All those spells to "fit the progression" should be d6s. But they weren't changed to d6s. Hence bias. Well I don't think so and neither do the previous editions of D&D. I don't think it's balanced, at all, to have direct elemental damage not have SR. Indirect non-elemental damage, Evard's black tentacles, reverse gravity and similar is perfectly fine. The bluring of concepts where people start claiming "I evoke a ball of flame and it hurts you" vs. "I conjure a burning mist and it hurts you, but this is special burning mist that hurts you differently than that ball of flame" really doesn't fly for me. Just because it's a conjuration doesn't mean it's not, in the end, direct elemental damage. [/QUOTE]

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