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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1205870" data-attributes="member: 1134">I have never seen a problem with stacking the same metamagic feat.  And the few ones people claimed to have problems with have now been changed so they can't effectively be modified, stat buffs can't be empowered since they aren't variable, and the duraiton is so short who cares how amny times people extend it for example.  Though personally I had no porblem with a high powered stat buff as an 8th level spell.As for widen its perhaps the weakest metamagic feat in existence, so if people want to make themselves weak and take it and then use a even weaker tactic by using it twice well then don't blame me when your fellow party memebers kill you for being a lame spellcaster.  And also considering how doubling works in D&D its x2(+100%)at 1 widen and x3(+200%)at a double widen so yippee you can have a 9th level fireball with a 60' radius.</blockquote>