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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1207020" data-attributes="member: 1325">A doubly (or more) extended melf is not a real threat.All told the great &quot;advantage&quot; of melf is the long range, no save/no SR.In any single round, the melf deals no more than 2d4 damage.Looking at the breakdown3rd CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 2 rounds6th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 3 rounds9th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 4 rounds12th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 5 rounds15th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 6 rounds18th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 7 roundsDoubly Extended we get:7th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 9 rounds9th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 12 rounds12th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 15 rounds15th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 18 rounds18th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 21 roundsGiven the kind of opponents a 18th level wizard faces, does 2d4 damage per round from a 4th level spell slot seem inappropriate? Not to me. (I can't see how it gets to be 50d4 damage)This in place of a Dimension Door, Greater Invisibility, Phantasmal Killer, or Enervation? Not for me. At least, not in the wide majority of cases where I'd want a broad repetoire of spells to handle the day's diverse problems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="green slime, post: 1207020, member: 1325"] A doubly (or more) extended melf is not a real threat. All told the great "advantage" of melf is the long range, no save/no SR. In any single round, the melf deals no more than 2d4 damage. Looking at the breakdown 3rd CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 2 rounds 6th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 3 rounds 9th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 4 rounds 12th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 5 rounds 15th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 6 rounds 18th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 7 rounds Doubly Extended we get: 7th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 9 rounds 9th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 12 rounds 12th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 15 rounds 15th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 18 rounds 18th CL: MAA is dealing 2d4 for 21 rounds Given the kind of opponents a 18th level wizard faces, does 2d4 damage per round from a 4th level spell slot seem inappropriate? Not to me. (I can't see how it gets to be 50d4 damage) This in place of a [i]Dimension Door[/i], [i]Greater Invisibility[/i], [i]Phantasmal Killer[/i], or [i]Enervation[/i]? Not for me. At least, not in the wide majority of cases where I'd want a broad repetoire of spells to handle the day's diverse problems. [/QUOTE]

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