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[3.5] Stacking the same Meta-magic feat
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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1214778" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I agree. It is the only one that has seen use of ultiple stacking in our games, but maybe because we haven't made to very high level. Allowing multiple Extended spells is everything except broken. And the cost of more spell levels becomes a real burden after a couple Extend, so that it's not even very convenient, as you say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. +4 level to actually double a spell's damage is a big cost IMHO. Consider that you can do quite the same by casting 2 of the same spell, although it takes 2 rounds and gives 2 separate saves. If you otherwise use it to Empower a spell which doesn't do damage but instead gives a random penalty, the average effect is only slightly better than Maximise.</p><p></p><p>It's definitely Improved Metamagic that becomes broken once it allows you to decrease by 1 the effective level of EACH instance of a metamagic feat applied, since applying Empower twice would cost only +2 level, and for the same +4 level you would now increase damage by 200%.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1214778, member: 1465"] I agree. It is the only one that has seen use of ultiple stacking in our games, but maybe because we haven't made to very high level. Allowing multiple Extended spells is everything except broken. And the cost of more spell levels becomes a real burden after a couple Extend, so that it's not even very convenient, as you say. I disagree. +4 level to actually double a spell's damage is a big cost IMHO. Consider that you can do quite the same by casting 2 of the same spell, although it takes 2 rounds and gives 2 separate saves. If you otherwise use it to Empower a spell which doesn't do damage but instead gives a random penalty, the average effect is only slightly better than Maximise. It's definitely Improved Metamagic that becomes broken once it allows you to decrease by 1 the effective level of EACH instance of a metamagic feat applied, since applying Empower twice would cost only +2 level, and for the same +4 level you would now increase damage by 200%. [/QUOTE]
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