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<blockquote data-quote="douglasesims" data-source="post: 5460743" data-attributes="member: 6670095"><p>1--have guys in group saying that if flying (hovering via fly spell in this case) directly over head of enemy that either you can't attack from that position or that the enemy would have cover from your feet (they keep saying for some reason that you would be flying around in an upright position or sort of "supermanesque" (typing that word hurt me physically, but that's what one of them said) and that when you stopped and/or were going to attack that you would automatically go into an upright, similar to standing on the ground position because that's the way you know to use your weapon (unless you specifically practice being in some other position while flying and using the weapon). seems to me that you could be in any position, upside down, backward, whatever and as long as you have line of effect/sight and are within range that you could attack without any modifiers related to that. wanted to ask the first time without bias either way to see what sort of answers i got, but with this new information, what do you say?</p><p> </p><p>2--i think that a paladin's mount (starts w/int 6, doesnt it? which has to be at least twice as much as a regular horse, i think, and is also a magical beast anyway, not a horse) could without training but with the help of the empathic link of it's paladin definitely fly. probably could even without the paladin telling it anything via empathic link. 6 intelligence is stupid human range and there's no intelligence minimum needed to fly via the fly spell anyway. i know what it says in the air walk spell, but this isn't air walk. i would think a -10 to ride checks made while the paladin is riding his fly spell imbued mount would be fair. couple guys in group keep saying that it's not natural for a horse (theyre including a paladin's mount in the "horse" category) to fly and so it wouldnt be able to without extensive training (like it says in handle animal, air walk, etc). also, saying that even if allowed that the paladin would have to make a ride check for every move and/or standard action at a large penalty--i say this is overkill. what you say now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="douglasesims, post: 5460743, member: 6670095"] 1--have guys in group saying that if flying (hovering via fly spell in this case) directly over head of enemy that either you can't attack from that position or that the enemy would have cover from your feet (they keep saying for some reason that you would be flying around in an upright position or sort of "supermanesque" (typing that word hurt me physically, but that's what one of them said) and that when you stopped and/or were going to attack that you would automatically go into an upright, similar to standing on the ground position because that's the way you know to use your weapon (unless you specifically practice being in some other position while flying and using the weapon). seems to me that you could be in any position, upside down, backward, whatever and as long as you have line of effect/sight and are within range that you could attack without any modifiers related to that. wanted to ask the first time without bias either way to see what sort of answers i got, but with this new information, what do you say? 2--i think that a paladin's mount (starts w/int 6, doesnt it? which has to be at least twice as much as a regular horse, i think, and is also a magical beast anyway, not a horse) could without training but with the help of the empathic link of it's paladin definitely fly. probably could even without the paladin telling it anything via empathic link. 6 intelligence is stupid human range and there's no intelligence minimum needed to fly via the fly spell anyway. i know what it says in the air walk spell, but this isn't air walk. i would think a -10 to ride checks made while the paladin is riding his fly spell imbued mount would be fair. couple guys in group keep saying that it's not natural for a horse (theyre including a paladin's mount in the "horse" category) to fly and so it wouldnt be able to without extensive training (like it says in handle animal, air walk, etc). also, saying that even if allowed that the paladin would have to make a ride check for every move and/or standard action at a large penalty--i say this is overkill. what you say now? [/QUOTE]
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