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<blockquote data-quote="DWARF" data-source="post: 1011851" data-attributes="member: 863"><p>Okay, so you're saying I can use a Halfling Longspear in one hand giving me 10 foot reach for a -2 penalty, then use a Medium Bastard Sword in the other hand, now with my 1 Feat 2-Weapon Fighting. Then, add in a high Dex and Combat Reflexes.... then get Hold-the-Line from Sword and Fist. Yeah, look at how over-powering that is. I have 10 foot and 5 foot reach, and anyone that tries to come up and attack me suffers and AoO, which if it hits they then need to make a Fortitude save vs. 10 + damage dealt or they can't move anymore. Then, imagine if 2 or 3 such people stood beside each other, overlapping their fields of reach. Then, anyone charging an opponent would elicit several AoO's, each of them with hold the line saves of Fort versus 10+damage. Then, if they do get stuck, the 3 guys get to do a full-attack and then take a 5 foot step back, making the attacker go through their porcupine death wall again..... having not even attacked.</p><p></p><p>And even if he did get through, they still have their other hand on Bastard Swords to cut him down... So yeah, I think Halflings with reach is stupid. If a Halfling warrior wants a 10-foot reach, let him take monkey-grip for a Longspear...</p><p></p><p>As well, the new size rules are clunky and definitely STOOPID. I mean, if people get all uppity with "how can a halfling use a Longsword 2-handed, why don't halflings make Greatswords for their size" then answer me this, why is this level of abstraction good? Why not break it up so each RACE has its own set of weapons? Why would Gnomes use halfling longswords, why not their own?</p><p></p><p>The answer? Because their close enough that the game would suffer if you went any more into it. It's abstract but works. And those are the same reasons my group is sticking with the current rules. </p><p></p><p>They may be abstract and have a halfling greatsword be the same as a human longsword, and be interchangeable; but how come humans and dwarves can wear the same armor interchangeably? How does Banded Mail designed for a 14 Str, 12 Str city guard fit a 20 Str, 16 Con Heroic Adventurer? The answer, it's just to long and difficult to worry about it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DWARF, post: 1011851, member: 863"] Okay, so you're saying I can use a Halfling Longspear in one hand giving me 10 foot reach for a -2 penalty, then use a Medium Bastard Sword in the other hand, now with my 1 Feat 2-Weapon Fighting. Then, add in a high Dex and Combat Reflexes.... then get Hold-the-Line from Sword and Fist. Yeah, look at how over-powering that is. I have 10 foot and 5 foot reach, and anyone that tries to come up and attack me suffers and AoO, which if it hits they then need to make a Fortitude save vs. 10 + damage dealt or they can't move anymore. Then, imagine if 2 or 3 such people stood beside each other, overlapping their fields of reach. Then, anyone charging an opponent would elicit several AoO's, each of them with hold the line saves of Fort versus 10+damage. Then, if they do get stuck, the 3 guys get to do a full-attack and then take a 5 foot step back, making the attacker go through their porcupine death wall again..... having not even attacked. And even if he did get through, they still have their other hand on Bastard Swords to cut him down... So yeah, I think Halflings with reach is stupid. If a Halfling warrior wants a 10-foot reach, let him take monkey-grip for a Longspear... As well, the new size rules are clunky and definitely STOOPID. I mean, if people get all uppity with "how can a halfling use a Longsword 2-handed, why don't halflings make Greatswords for their size" then answer me this, why is this level of abstraction good? Why not break it up so each RACE has its own set of weapons? Why would Gnomes use halfling longswords, why not their own? The answer? Because their close enough that the game would suffer if you went any more into it. It's abstract but works. And those are the same reasons my group is sticking with the current rules. They may be abstract and have a halfling greatsword be the same as a human longsword, and be interchangeable; but how come humans and dwarves can wear the same armor interchangeably? How does Banded Mail designed for a 14 Str, 12 Str city guard fit a 20 Str, 16 Con Heroic Adventurer? The answer, it's just to long and difficult to worry about it... [/QUOTE]
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