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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3487292" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Gary says: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's also clear from the rest of the article that Gary and his crew used them. Gary's group at the LGTSA were historical miniatures enthusiasts and had access to them and Gary had a sand table in his basement IIRC.</p><p></p><p>They certainly were not common elsewhere as D&D broke into the market for the simple reason that there were no easy sources of D&D minis to acquire. If you didn't have historical minis to use, you couldn't go into most shops to buy them. Nobody was making D&D specific minis until 1976 and medieval historical minis were an extreme niche product.</p><p></p><p>My point: miniatures combat is at the roots of the game we play. They were not bolted on afterwards, nor are they some modern contrivance out of place in a pnp RPG; the game evolved out of miniatures - not the other way around.</p><p></p><p>There is an old slang we use from my gaming group that derives from this in the 70s. Instead of asking "whose campaign", we asked "whose board?". It's a reference to the referee of the "board" that you played on, meaning miniatures. We still sometimes use the phrase "whose board?" when we are asking who is/was DMing and we get odd looks from those who are not from that era.</p><p></p><p>Man, I'm getting old... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3487292, member: 20741"] Gary says: It's also clear from the rest of the article that Gary and his crew used them. Gary's group at the LGTSA were historical miniatures enthusiasts and had access to them and Gary had a sand table in his basement IIRC. They certainly were not common elsewhere as D&D broke into the market for the simple reason that there were no easy sources of D&D minis to acquire. If you didn't have historical minis to use, you couldn't go into most shops to buy them. Nobody was making D&D specific minis until 1976 and medieval historical minis were an extreme niche product. My point: miniatures combat is at the roots of the game we play. They were not bolted on afterwards, nor are they some modern contrivance out of place in a pnp RPG; the game evolved out of miniatures - not the other way around. There is an old slang we use from my gaming group that derives from this in the 70s. Instead of asking "whose campaign", we asked "whose board?". It's a reference to the referee of the "board" that you played on, meaning miniatures. We still sometimes use the phrase "whose board?" when we are asking who is/was DMing and we get odd looks from those who are not from that era. Man, I'm getting old... :D [/QUOTE]
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