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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 965659" data-attributes="member: 7211">Not even close when applied to spellcasters. Look at a Clr10/Dru10 or a Wiz10/Sor10. Heck even a Brd10/Sor10 is way behind the curve.Someone could make the case that Wiz10/Clr10 = Wiz20 or Clr20 because of versatility, but I have never heard that a Sor10/Wiz10 or a Clr10/Dru10 stack up to the single-class brethren.As far as "sub-optimal" choices, should there really be sub-optimal choices? Of course there should, if there weren't it implies every choice is optimal, which seems impossible.Its sub-optimal for a tank fighter to take Weapon Finesse.Its sub-optimal for a blaster mage to take Power Attack.Should it be sub-optimal to multiclass in certain ways? That is the root of the problem with spellcasting multiclass rules in 3rd edition. In most respects, it is suboptimal, compared to someone of your level. If you think it is just a "bad" choice, that should never be a "good" choice, then perhaps you should stop reading this thread now. You don't want a change because even if it was balanced, you would still consider it "bad".A clr/wiz is not powerful enough by having access to armors that interfere with his arcane spells, healing spells, and a larger hit die to compete against challenges for his level. In effect, his ECL should be lowered (if there is such a mechanic) to reflect his lack of power. When you start comparing characters with "overlapping class abilities" like a Sor/Wiz or Clr/Drd things look even more dire, as the supposed "flexibility" is all but absent.Technik</blockquote>

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