Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 647070" data-attributes="member: 5868">I'd like to point out to the miniature naysayers that D&D has always been a miniature oriented game at heart.Take a look at the original (1974) rulebooks.  They say right on the cover "Playable with paper and pencil and miniature figures."Why do you think movement rates were given in inches from OD&D through 2d Edition?  Why hex maps for outdoor movement?  Why facing/flanking diagrams?  Because D&D evolved from tabletop wargames, maintains that connection to its roots, and at its heart assumes you have some sort of representation for placement.In 3E, particularly, you are losing a lot of the functionality of the feat system by not use some sort of map and counter system.Not that there is anything wrong with not using some sort of system -- I personally played that way for a long time, and only came to use minis and a map with 3E.  Now that I have, I'll never go back.  The visual aspects, plus the increased effectiveness of the rules, are simply too much to sacrifice.IME, minis only slow down play for those who aren't used to measuring on the map, and must count each 5' move of their character -- but that doesn't take much time and solves a lot of silly questions.  If your players dawdle -- simply tell them their round is up, move or pass.Don't knock the system 'til you've tried it.  If you still don't like it, then don't use it.  No one is forcing you.</blockquote>

Verification