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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 647761" data-attributes="member: 8704">Never used them, never needed them and don't plan on starting to use them now. Don't want to own them, don't want to paint them, don't care to use them, never have needed them to have exciting combat. I guess it's just what you are used to, what do I need to play D&D, one character sheet, one pencil and a small bag of dice. We usually sit in living rooms to play not at a big table, it would be really annoying to set up a battle map on a coffee table across the room from where I am sitting and for me to have to walk over there for two or three rounds of I hit the orc with my sword. We just have never played that way and after 25 years I really don't care to make such a drastic change in the way I play the game. I understand why people would like that and I don't think there is anything wrong with either way of playing, and I don't see where either way is superior to the other, they are just different, free flow descriptive battle vs tactical battle on a map. We used to play Mechwarrior and it seemed that the battles took forever and the roleplaying never happened, I love sitting around a big map and having tactical encounters but it wasn't roleplaying it was a tactical encounter. I'm sure for a lot of people they are the same but in my experience they just never mixed really good. We can finish up simple combat in 10 minutes or less, it would take that long for us to set up a map and counters. When we have a major encounter it could take hours but we enjoy the roleplaying of it out, nobody cares about how many squares or feet or inches or meters (or whatever) they are from the monster they move and attack, the DM says whether the mosnter got a attack of Opportunity or not and we move on with combat, nobody cares about facings, if you are trying to flank a creature then you say hey I'm trying to flank the creature, the DM says whether you can or not and how many rounds it will take you to get to where you want to be, and you move on, trying to learn how to do that with minatures would be a whole different game for me and I don't care to learn it. It isn't a good or bad thing, it is a preference thing. It doesn't matter to me who uses them or who doesn't use them it only matters if you have fun playing the game the way you are playing it. If they change the game to try and force minatures then they are stupid, because there are lots of people who don't use them and don't want to use them. I don't think they are that stupid to alienate a big part of their target audience by forcing you to use miatures, I think they are just fleshing out the rules in that direction so as to try to get people to buy their new line of minatures. Regardless of how D&D was originally written to be played there is a huge number of people who just don't use minatures (I have never actually met anybody who has even tried to use them in 25 years of playing D&D, I didn't even think they were that popular till I started posting here). Forcing minature use would anger a large percentage of their fanbase, they are not going to change the rules to force it, they are just going to try and sell some little plastic men. It will not affect me at all, I will do things the way I like and if we have to house rules combat or use the "old rules" well I am fine with that.</blockquote>

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