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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seule" data-source="post: 651722" data-attributes="member: 407">The size mod they are using here is the one listed under Grapple, not the generic combat size mod.  It's (basically) +4 for every size over Medium, and =4 for every size under Medium.  Therefore your example should be like this:A - Medium Fighter 5 (BAB +3, Str +2, Size +0)B - Small Wizard -4 (BAB +1, Str -1, Size -4)Yes, this means that small characters have a disadvantage in grappling.  Have you ever tried grappling a child?  It's not hard.  Small Rogues should probably buy up Escape Artist (which doesn't have this mod) to compensate.  Other small characters should carry a dagger so they can still attack.This, by the way, is what makes colossal grapplers like a Kraken so very dangerous.  Huge BAB, huge Str mod, and +16 size mod.  Tough to beat.  --Seule</blockquote>