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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 757594" data-attributes="member: 3586">The issue of magic not trumping material protection is somewhat dependent on how great the Damage Reduction is in the first place. After all, the new rules aren't &quot;your magic weapon can't hurt the monster at all&quot;, just that it works at a lesser effectiveness.In &quot;Nine Princes of Amber&quot;, by Roger Zelazny, Corwin wields a magical silver blade; he uses it to slay two weir (werewolves) that his brother and sister have slain; I find it hard to imagine Random's blade not being magical, although Deirdre uses her bare hands. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In any case, this &quot;new&quot; Damage Reduction issue has been with us for quite a while - because of regeneration.Against Trolls, you only deal subdual damage unless you use acid or fire.Against Demons, you need a blessed weapon, or it's subdual damage.Damage Reduction makes it more obvious that things aren't working, however... and may be more painful in the end.Cheers!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 757594, member: 3586"] The issue of magic not trumping material protection is somewhat dependent on how great the Damage Reduction is in the first place. After all, the new rules aren't "your magic weapon can't hurt the monster at all", just that it works at a lesser effectiveness. In "Nine Princes of Amber", by Roger Zelazny, Corwin wields a magical [i]silver[/i] blade; he uses it to slay two [i]weir[/i] (werewolves) that his brother and sister have slain; I find it hard to imagine Random's blade not being magical, although Deirdre uses her bare hands. :) In any case, this "new" Damage Reduction issue has been with us for quite a while - because of regeneration. Against Trolls, you only deal subdual damage unless you use acid or fire. Against Demons, you need a blessed weapon, or it's subdual damage. Damage Reduction makes it more obvious that things aren't working, however... and may be more painful in the end. Cheers! [/QUOTE]

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