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<blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 760097" data-attributes="member: 6939"><p>Wow, sorry about the length of the previous post... </p><p></p><p>Merak </p><p>Now, lets look inside the mechanics to see what happened. Unknown to the adventurer, he is fightin a creature with DR 5/Adamantine. In fact, I think it would be common to not know if they had DR at all, but lets move on.</p><p></p><p>First he tries 'normal' : Rolls and hits, but only does 3pts damage. Since combat is abstract, you 'hit' people all the time and do no damage, that is how armour works (or natural armour) We just count those as 'misses'. Now, if all he did was hit the natural armour and do no damage, how can he (without metagaming) know it was anything other than a miss? But, lets assume he swings more than once, or just guesses lucky.... </p><p></p><p>So now tries iron: He hits, and does damage, but not much (rolled 8 points- does 3) Well, is this because of DR, or just due to a bad hit? How can you tell? Lets assume he (again) guesses right, and move on.</p><p></p><p>Now tries Adamantine, hits, rolls 3 damage, does three. Well, this was no better than iron, so it must not be good either..... </p><p></p><p>Lets try magic uses a +1 sword: rolls 5 (+1) does 1 point. Well heck, this is getting worse... </p><p></p><p>How about Lawful: Rolls max damage, (10) does 5 points damage. Which is almost double anything else. The creature dies soon after.</p><p></p><p>Now, this trusty loyal follower of fharlanghn (this become important later.) goes back to the temple, to tell them he now KNOWS that this monster (with the DR 5/adamantine) is most vulnerable to a Lawful weapon.</p><p></p><p>Remember, all this 'research is being done in a split second, during combat. right. And lets *hope* this poor sop has QuickDraw.</p><p></p><p>Now, lets try it with different fighters, all with a different weapon. How do you know when it is the weapon, or when it is the strength of the fighter, or the HP of the monster??</p><p>It is just way too easy for wrong information to become 'fact' to assume everyone will know all the right answers. Or even care to find out. Who is going to do research on a Pit Fiend?? Or even a werewolf?</p><p></p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coredump, post: 760097, member: 6939"] Wow, sorry about the length of the previous post... Merak Now, lets look inside the mechanics to see what happened. Unknown to the adventurer, he is fightin a creature with DR 5/Adamantine. In fact, I think it would be common to not know if they had DR at all, but lets move on. First he tries 'normal' : Rolls and hits, but only does 3pts damage. Since combat is abstract, you 'hit' people all the time and do no damage, that is how armour works (or natural armour) We just count those as 'misses'. Now, if all he did was hit the natural armour and do no damage, how can he (without metagaming) know it was anything other than a miss? But, lets assume he swings more than once, or just guesses lucky.... So now tries iron: He hits, and does damage, but not much (rolled 8 points- does 3) Well, is this because of DR, or just due to a bad hit? How can you tell? Lets assume he (again) guesses right, and move on. Now tries Adamantine, hits, rolls 3 damage, does three. Well, this was no better than iron, so it must not be good either..... Lets try magic uses a +1 sword: rolls 5 (+1) does 1 point. Well heck, this is getting worse... How about Lawful: Rolls max damage, (10) does 5 points damage. Which is almost double anything else. The creature dies soon after. Now, this trusty loyal follower of fharlanghn (this become important later.) goes back to the temple, to tell them he now KNOWS that this monster (with the DR 5/adamantine) is most vulnerable to a Lawful weapon. Remember, all this 'research is being done in a split second, during combat. right. And lets *hope* this poor sop has QuickDraw. Now, lets try it with different fighters, all with a different weapon. How do you know when it is the weapon, or when it is the strength of the fighter, or the HP of the monster?? It is just way too easy for wrong information to become 'fact' to assume everyone will know all the right answers. Or even care to find out. Who is going to do research on a Pit Fiend?? Or even a werewolf? . [/QUOTE]
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