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3.5e - Has the Feats system been damaged?
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<blockquote data-quote="nikolai" data-source="post: 938233" data-attributes="member: 10130"><p><strong>Re: New Improved Weapon Specialisation and Focus</strong></p><p></p><p>"A new selection of Uber-feats (Improved Specialisation, Weapon Focus, Feint & Precise Shot) which have a doubtful reason for existance."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I just want to expand on my dislike of the new uber-feats, so we can have more of a discussion on them:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Almost every fighter with the appropriate levels is going to take <strong>Improved Specialisation</strong> & <strong>Improved Weapon Focus</strong> as soon as possible. It's going to make them all mechanically more similar rather than more different.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why do we now need an additional bonuses to hit and damage which stack with old ones - we've got on fine without them up until now! I honestly think if they were published in a 3rd party OGL book, people would be lining up to say they're "broken".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's totally unimaginative to create improved feats which just give more bonuses on top of previous bonuses. Particularly as the bonuses are so closely linked to the function of the class. It's like Greater Spell Focus all over again. There has to be more imaginative ways of using game mechanics to customise high level fighters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Together with the new Power Attack, I can really see cumulative effect of small bonuses creating something truely horrific. With the focus benefits converted to damage we're potentially talking about a +8 bonus to damage (opposed to +3 previously).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">As for <strong>Precise Shot</strong> and <strong>Improved Feint</strong>, I'm more relaxed about, but not much. These are both far more powerful than any equivalents in 3e. Negating all cover and allowing feinting as a move action - I can't recall anything like this tried in 3e before. It may be a dangerous pathway to archers who can completely ignore arrow slits and could make rogues sneak attacking a regular combat feature (guaranteed once a round), both of these were at the powerful end of the spectrum in 3e. I'm wary about seeing them improved.</li> </ul><p></p><p>yours,</p><p></p><p>nikolai.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nikolai, post: 938233, member: 10130"] [b]Re: New Improved Weapon Specialisation and Focus[/b] "A new selection of Uber-feats (Improved Specialisation, Weapon Focus, Feint & Precise Shot) which have a doubtful reason for existance." I just want to expand on my dislike of the new uber-feats, so we can have more of a discussion on them: [list] [*]Almost every fighter with the appropriate levels is going to take [B]Improved Specialisation[/B] & [B]Improved Weapon Focus[/B] as soon as possible. It's going to make them all mechanically more similar rather than more different. [*]Why do we now need an additional bonuses to hit and damage which stack with old ones - we've got on fine without them up until now! I honestly think if they were published in a 3rd party OGL book, people would be lining up to say they're "broken". [*]It's totally unimaginative to create improved feats which just give more bonuses on top of previous bonuses. Particularly as the bonuses are so closely linked to the function of the class. It's like Greater Spell Focus all over again. There has to be more imaginative ways of using game mechanics to customise high level fighters. [*]Together with the new Power Attack, I can really see cumulative effect of small bonuses creating something truely horrific. With the focus benefits converted to damage we're potentially talking about a +8 bonus to damage (opposed to +3 previously). [*]As for [B]Precise Shot[/B] and [B]Improved Feint[/B], I'm more relaxed about, but not much. These are both far more powerful than any equivalents in 3e. Negating all cover and allowing feinting as a move action - I can't recall anything like this tried in 3e before. It may be a dangerous pathway to archers who can completely ignore arrow slits and could make rogues sneak attacking a regular combat feature (guaranteed once a round), both of these were at the powerful end of the spectrum in 3e. I'm wary about seeing them improved. [/list] yours, nikolai. [/QUOTE]
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