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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seankreynolds" data-source="post: 862380" data-attributes="member: 3029">Let me restate in a different way:1) 3.0 metamagic is a waste; you have to "pay" for it twice (once by taking the feat, once by using a higher-level spell slot), and it's much less effective for 2 spellcasting classes (bard and rogue). The revised metamagic was well-received among the staff at the time (IIRC), and was something that I'd consider taking (in fact, my sorcerer in the game I'm playing now has the revised Extend Spell). But the revised metamagic feats were dropped from the 3.5 rules because there wasn't enough time to playtest them. So something that many (rightly) complain about in the core rules isn't being fixed, even though the revised PH was done first and so they've had from at least Feb of last year to about Feb of this year to playtest it.2) Revisions are being made to the MM monsters and new monsters added. WotC claims the two versions are compatible (with "minor changes") even though some creatures have obviously experience significant revisions (such as the mummy's +2 HD) and there have been significant changes to the skills, feats, and some special abilities (such as DR). WotC admits some of its original CRs were off and needed to be fixed. And apparently these updated monsters have all been playtested and new CRs assigned.So we have the MM 3.5, which has been in development for less time than the PH, and has more revised material than the PH. And apparently there has been enough time to playtest all of those monsters, but not enough time to playtest the revised metamagic system.And I admit, I'm miffed that the revised metamagic isn't going to be in the PH 3.5. I liked it a lot, and I think Andy Collins did a great job creating it and making it work.</blockquote>

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