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<blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 862508" data-attributes="member: 3087">I've seen metamagic used quite successfuly in my current game. From reading story hours I don't think this is an isolated case.Given my wizard-players ability to wring every ounce of power from his spellbook I don't think he wouldn't be maximizing his fireballs or extending his buffs if he were being &quot;over charged&quot;.Many powerful and useful feats don't work without some other preperation. I'm not sure why memorizing a spell as a higher level is somehow different from the constraints applied to other classes. Weapon focus/Finesse/Specialization requires the character to use a specific weapon. Not the same but without that preperation the feat does nothing for the character. Fighting with two weapons causes a combatant to forgo the ac bonus of a shield, or else take additional feats to compensate.And so forth.[the following comment assumes that the metamagic system is similar to the one that A. Collins kicked off the house rules dragon magazine collum with. obviously his system was different then I'm talking out of my rear.]Feats, especially good feats, don't usually just give out free once-a-day powers with no special strings attached.This was the metamagic system previewed (by Andy Collins) in the house rules section of dragon a few months ago?I thought it was interesting, and might be a lot of fun. However it didn't seem like a &quot;better version of metamagic&quot; but a &quot;different way to do metamagic if you want arcane casters to be more spontanous&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Graf, post: 862508, member: 3087"] I've seen metamagic used quite successfuly in my current game. From reading story hours I don't think this is an isolated case. Given my wizard-players ability to wring every ounce of power from his spellbook I don't think he wouldn't be maximizing his fireballs or extending his buffs if he were being "over charged". Many powerful and useful feats don't work without some other preperation. I'm not sure why memorizing a spell as a higher level is somehow different from the constraints applied to other classes. Weapon focus/Finesse/Specialization requires the character to use a specific weapon. Not the same but without that preperation the feat does nothing for the character. Fighting with two weapons causes a combatant to forgo the ac bonus of a shield, or else take additional feats to compensate. And so forth. [the following comment assumes that the metamagic system is similar to the one that A. Collins kicked off the house rules dragon magazine collum with. obviously his system was different then I'm talking out of my rear.] Feats, especially good feats, don't usually just give out free once-a-day powers with no special strings attached. This was the metamagic system previewed (by Andy Collins) in the house rules section of dragon a few months ago? I thought it was interesting, and might be a lot of fun. However it didn't seem like a "better version of metamagic" but a "different way to do metamagic if you want arcane casters to be more spontanous". [/QUOTE]

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