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<blockquote data-quote="earthsea_wizard" data-source="post: 9548331" data-attributes="member: 7049259"><p>Where is this in the 3.0 DMG?</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Found it, pg 164. It doesn't exactly suggest this. It is under the section for creating "diverging worlds" such as stone age or rennaissance and also has suggestions for running both a lower <strong>or</strong> higher magic world:</p><p></p><p>"Another way to create a divergent game is to change the amount of</p><p>magic available.</p><p></p><p><strong>Low Magic:</strong> In a low-magic game, spellcasters and magic trea-</p><p>sure are about twice as rare as normal. Magic items aren't for sale</p><p>because they're too rare to ever think of parting with for mere gold.</p><p>The occasional trade of an item or its sale for gold is possible, of</p><p>course, but it is a rarity in the economic structure.</p><p>Common people almost never see magic. Some might not even</p><p>believe in it. A spell or a magic-using creature completely bedevils</p><p>the common folk and terrifies them. All magic-using creatures,</p><p>including characters, may be thought of as "demons." They might</p><p>be persecuted. Witch trials and the like could be a common fate for</p><p>wizards and sorcerers. Clerics and other divine spellcasters are</p><p>probably safer than arcane spellcasters, but they might not be,</p><p>depending on the culture.</p><p></p><p><strong>High Magic:</strong> Spellcasters and magic treasures are twice as com-</p><p>mon as presented in these rules, if not more so. Most characters</p><p>have a level or two of wizard or sorcerer. Even a shopkeeper might</p><p>be at least a 1st-level spellcaster. Magic items are bought and sold in</p><p>clearly marked shops like any other commodity. Spells are used to</p><p>light homes, keep people warm, and communicate. The function</p><p>they serve is as commonplace as modern-day technology is in the</p><p>real world.</p><p>This sort of campaign can be directed one of two ways. The first</p><p>is to take the world of the utterly fantastic route, where magic is</p><p>sophisticated and common, and to create a world unlike anything</p><p>anyone but you has ever imagined. The second is to take the comi-</p><p>cal route, where magic simply becomes technology—little imps in</p><p>boxes perform calculations like computers, and people have magi-</p><p>cal transmission television sets. The second route can be fun, but</p><p>the sort of light-hearted parody it leads to is probably not a good</p><p>basis for a long-term campaign."</p><p></p><p>Perhaps this was removed from 3.5 DMG because, as much as some of us hate to admit it, doubling magic items or halving them with no other considerations recommended will result in some pretty screwed up encounters. Either your party is bulldozing every single encounter with no fear or the opposite is happening to them. This would be true in just about any edition of the game. It just isn't a good recommendation as written.</p><p></p><p>The defualt assumption the 3.0 DMG gives is this though, which is the same as the 3.5 DMG:</p><p></p><p>"Unless you are going to run a divergent game (see Differing</p><p>Magic, page 164), magic is prevalent enough in the world that it</p><p>will always be taken into account by smart individuals. A merchant</p><p>wouldn't be flabbergasted by the idea that someone might try to</p><p>steal from her while invisible. A swindler would be aware that</p><p>someone might be able to detect his thoughts or his lies.</p><p>Magic shouldn't be something that common people are unaware</p><p>of. Spellcasters may be fairly rare in the big picture, but they're</p><p>common enough that people know that when Uncle Rufus falls off</p><p>the back of the wagon, they could take him to the temple to have</p><p>the priests heal the wound (although the average peasant probably</p><p>couldn't afford the price). Only the most isolated farmer might not</p><p>see magic or the results of magic regularly."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="earthsea_wizard, post: 9548331, member: 7049259"] Where is this in the 3.0 DMG? EDIT: Found it, pg 164. It doesn't exactly suggest this. It is under the section for creating "diverging worlds" such as stone age or rennaissance and also has suggestions for running both a lower [B]or[/B] higher magic world: "Another way to create a divergent game is to change the amount of magic available. [B]Low Magic:[/B] In a low-magic game, spellcasters and magic trea- sure are about twice as rare as normal. Magic items aren't for sale because they're too rare to ever think of parting with for mere gold. The occasional trade of an item or its sale for gold is possible, of course, but it is a rarity in the economic structure. Common people almost never see magic. Some might not even believe in it. A spell or a magic-using creature completely bedevils the common folk and terrifies them. All magic-using creatures, including characters, may be thought of as "demons." They might be persecuted. Witch trials and the like could be a common fate for wizards and sorcerers. Clerics and other divine spellcasters are probably safer than arcane spellcasters, but they might not be, depending on the culture. [B]High Magic:[/B] Spellcasters and magic treasures are twice as com- mon as presented in these rules, if not more so. Most characters have a level or two of wizard or sorcerer. Even a shopkeeper might be at least a 1st-level spellcaster. Magic items are bought and sold in clearly marked shops like any other commodity. Spells are used to light homes, keep people warm, and communicate. The function they serve is as commonplace as modern-day technology is in the real world. This sort of campaign can be directed one of two ways. The first is to take the world of the utterly fantastic route, where magic is sophisticated and common, and to create a world unlike anything anyone but you has ever imagined. The second is to take the comi- cal route, where magic simply becomes technology—little imps in boxes perform calculations like computers, and people have magi- cal transmission television sets. The second route can be fun, but the sort of light-hearted parody it leads to is probably not a good basis for a long-term campaign." Perhaps this was removed from 3.5 DMG because, as much as some of us hate to admit it, doubling magic items or halving them with no other considerations recommended will result in some pretty screwed up encounters. Either your party is bulldozing every single encounter with no fear or the opposite is happening to them. This would be true in just about any edition of the game. It just isn't a good recommendation as written. The defualt assumption the 3.0 DMG gives is this though, which is the same as the 3.5 DMG: "Unless you are going to run a divergent game (see Differing Magic, page 164), magic is prevalent enough in the world that it will always be taken into account by smart individuals. A merchant wouldn't be flabbergasted by the idea that someone might try to steal from her while invisible. A swindler would be aware that someone might be able to detect his thoughts or his lies. Magic shouldn't be something that common people are unaware of. Spellcasters may be fairly rare in the big picture, but they're common enough that people know that when Uncle Rufus falls off the back of the wagon, they could take him to the temple to have the priests heal the wound (although the average peasant probably couldn't afford the price). Only the most isolated farmer might not see magic or the results of magic regularly." [/QUOTE]
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