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<blockquote data-quote="Vurt" data-source="post: 939599" data-attributes="member: 1547">A reasonable arguement.And I would answer &quot;possibly&quot;.&nbsp; But if you've never trained to fight with the TWF style in heavy armour, is it also reasonable to expect that as soon you don a set of full plate you'll be able to do all the things you were able to do previously?&nbsp; The question then becomes: does the medium or heavy armour proficiency confer the ability to do anything you would be able to do otherwise?&nbsp; &nbsp; If you think it does, then you're set.If it doesn't, to address your mechanics concerns, should there be a graduated set of feats &quot;light armour TWF&quot;, &quot;medium armour TWF&quot;, &quot;heavy armour TWF&quot; with the requirements that you are proficient in the armour in question?&nbsp; Or would that be more clutter than it's worth for a set of arguably weak feats?And if you think this is all too confusing or maybe just too much work for too little benefit, then maybe that's exactly why it's not in the PHB.The way I see it, the Ranger CAN use TWF in medium and heavy armour, it just costs him one of his regular feats just like it costs the fighter and, indeed, everyone else.&nbsp; To add some gravy, now it only costs one feat instead of two.This is the internet, go for it!&nbsp; Complaints are mandatory!&nbsp; I think it's written somewhere in your ISP's terms of service agreement. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Vurt</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vurt, post: 939599, member: 1547"] A reasonable arguement. And I would answer "possibly". But if you've never trained to fight with the TWF style in heavy armour, is it also reasonable to expect that as soon you don a set of full plate you'll be able to do all the things you were able to do previously? The question then becomes: does the medium or heavy armour proficiency confer the ability to do anything you would be able to do otherwise? If you think it does, then you're set. If it doesn't, to address your mechanics concerns, should there be a graduated set of feats "light armour TWF", "medium armour TWF", "heavy armour TWF" with the requirements that you are proficient in the armour in question? Or would that be more clutter than it's worth for a set of arguably weak feats? And if you think this is all too confusing or maybe just too much work for too little benefit, then maybe that's exactly why it's not in the PHB. The way I see it, the Ranger CAN use TWF in medium and heavy armour, it just costs him one of his regular feats just like it costs the fighter and, indeed, everyone else. To add some gravy, now it only costs one feat instead of two. This is the internet, go for it! Complaints are mandatory! I think it's written somewhere in your ISP's terms of service agreement. ;) Vurt [/QUOTE]

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