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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vageta31" data-source="post: 5471252" data-attributes="member: 6669978">So I'm working on a build involving a few levels of swordsage and had a few questions.1. Initiator levels. So the math is SS level + 1/2 other class levels + PrC levels = initiator levels? So if I did say.. rogue/fighter for the first 5 levels and took SS at 6, it'd count as initiator 3 or 4(not sure how you round..) Then at 7 I took master thrower, 2 more levels or rogue or fighter, and SS at 10 my IL would be 6/7? I'm trying to figure out the earliest level I could take SS 2 and get 5th level maneuvers following this build progression. Or I could take master thrower at 7-9(counts as a full 3 if I understand correctly), take SS at 10 AND 11, and by 11 I could pick up a 5th stance? A bit confusing.2. Cloak of deception. Here is the desc:CLOAK OF DECEPTIONShadow Hand (Boost)Level: Swordsage 2Initiation Action: 1 swift actionRange: PersonalTarget: YouDuration: End of turnThe shadows around you seem to surge forwardand engulf you. For a brief moment,they render you invisible.When you initiate this maneuver, youturn invisible, as the greater invisibilityspell (PH 245). You remain invisibleuntil the end of your current turn.This maneuver is a supernaturalability.Does this mean I can do this maneuver at the start of my round as a swift action, then do my full attack while invisible? If so it seems I can get one full round SA during each encounter. Assuming I got surprise round, then won initiative on normal round and then in 2nd round I do this, I could get 3 SA in a row.3. Shadow stride is a move action, and if I read correctly it basically means I can teleport 50 feet then still have a standard attack. Meaning if I get initiative and act before my target, I can TP near him and get a SA in? This is the main reason I want to get a 5th level maneuver. Also, if I'm in melee range and shadow stride backwards away, do I take an AoO? Since it's considered a teleport and I don't actually cast a spell, it seems it would not.  As a thrower this could be awesome. If enemies close in on me, I could TP 40-50 feet away and get a full round throw attack and unless they're fast they couldn't close in on me in one round.4. Last one. Can I use any martial discipline maneuver with any stance? For instance if I'm using assassin stance, can I still use a desert wind maneuver or do I have to switch to a desert wind stance to do that? I can't seem to find clarity in the book.</blockquote>

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