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<blockquote data-quote="HoboGod" data-source="post: 5714496" data-attributes="member: 90920">Treasure rewards are one of the most aggravating game mechanics to follow. After you've banged your head against the wall figuring out attacks of opportunity, challenge ratings, and the encounter levels, all you have to do is give out experience and treasure. Experience isn't so bad, the table is pretty easy to follow and just requires a bit of math. Treasure isn't all that bad either if you've already figured out encounter levels. In fact, there's online calculators out there that eliminates the math and table work. If you do everything by the books, then things work great and you don't need anything I'm suggesting. However, if you tend to reward ad hoc experience, your game doesn't match the 13 encounter system, or you have players of different levels, you've likely been depriving your players of appropriate treasure or giving them too much, and additionally your lowest level players are being excelled too quickly to have the appropriate treasure for their level.My variant is not a variant at all, it's how the DMG suggests you as a DM should award treasure. DMG says that reaching A amount of experience requires having B encounters which average C ECL each and then give D amount of treasure for a C ECL encounter B number of times. There is direct correlation between experience and treasure, my table is the math behind that correlation which reduces it to a 1-to-1 ratio.So, all the numbers are in place, with a little number munching, it's easy enough to say &quot;Hey, lets just give an amount of treasure based on experience!&quot; If the treasure you gain at next level is based on 13 balanced encounters, then the treasure value you gain can be calculated based on the sum of 13 encounters equal to your character level divided by the experience required to reach next level. I pulled out my spreadsheet tool and quickly derived the numbers. These numbers are rounded for convenience sake.[code]Current Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Treasure per exp1,2,3,4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 98 cp5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 104 cp6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 121 cp7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 138 cp8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 163 cp9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 189 cp10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 222 cp11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 265 cp12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 325 cp13&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 395 cp14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 477 cp15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 569 cp16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 688 cp17&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 849 cp18&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1043 cp19&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1300 cp[/code]So, for example, a party of three 8th level and two 6th level players fight five ogres, the 8th level players get 400 exp each and the 6th level players get 600 exp each. The 8th level players each get 400*163=65,200 cp (652 gp) worth of treasure, the 6th level players get 600*121=72,600 cp (726 gp) worth of treasure. You can justify the newbies getting more loot because they need it most and are the poorest of the group.Another way of handling this variant for those DMs that wish to let their players divide wealth on their own would be to calculate the treasure given to the highest level player and multiply that amount by the number of players. In the example above, the party would receive 3260 gp worth of treasure. Note that if the 6th level players were not given inflated starting gold, they shall never reach the same wealth once they catch up to the 8th level players in experience.The added advantage is that this variant grants higher control over how much wealth your players accumulate. I've seen too many games broken when wealth gets out of control. Your party will never reach too much higher than the values listed in the DMG, page 135, for wealth per level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HoboGod, post: 5714496, member: 90920"] Treasure rewards are one of the most aggravating game mechanics to follow. After you've banged your head against the wall figuring out attacks of opportunity, challenge ratings, and the encounter levels, all you have to do is give out experience and treasure. Experience isn't so bad, the table is pretty easy to follow and just requires a bit of math. Treasure isn't all that bad either if you've already figured out encounter levels. In fact, there's online calculators out there that eliminates the math and table work. If you do everything by the books, then things work great and you don't need anything I'm suggesting. However, if you tend to reward ad hoc experience, your game doesn't match the 13 encounter system, or you have players of different levels, you've likely been depriving your players of appropriate treasure or giving them too much, and additionally your lowest level players are being excelled too quickly to have the appropriate treasure for their level. [color="Red"]My variant is not a variant at all, it's how the DMG suggests you as a DM should award treasure. DMG says that reaching A amount of experience requires having B encounters which average C ECL each and then give D amount of treasure for a C ECL encounter B number of times. There is direct correlation between experience and treasure, my table is the math behind that correlation which reduces it to a 1-to-1 ratio.[/color] So, all the numbers are in place, with a little number munching, it's easy enough to say "Hey, lets just give an amount of treasure based on experience!" If the treasure you gain at next level is based on 13 balanced encounters, then the treasure value you gain can be calculated based on the sum of 13 encounters equal to your character level divided by the experience required to reach next level. I pulled out my spreadsheet tool and quickly derived the numbers. These numbers are rounded for convenience sake. [code]Current Level Treasure per exp 1,2,3,4 98 cp 5 104 cp 6 121 cp 7 138 cp 8 163 cp 9 189 cp 10 222 cp 11 265 cp 12 325 cp 13 395 cp 14 477 cp 15 569 cp 16 688 cp 17 849 cp 18 1043 cp 19 1300 cp[/code] So, for example, a party of three 8th level and two 6th level players fight five ogres, the 8th level players get 400 exp each and the 6th level players get 600 exp each. The 8th level players each get 400*163=65,200 cp (652 gp) worth of treasure, the 6th level players get 600*121=72,600 cp (726 gp) worth of treasure. You can justify the newbies getting more loot because they need it most and are the poorest of the group. [color="red"]Another way of handling this variant for those DMs that wish to let their players divide wealth on their own would be to calculate the treasure given to the highest level player and multiply that amount by the number of players. In the example above, the party would receive 3260 gp worth of treasure. Note that if the 6th level players were not given inflated starting gold, they shall never reach the same wealth once they catch up to the 8th level players in experience.[/color] The added advantage is that this variant grants higher control over how much wealth your players accumulate. I've seen too many games broken when wealth gets out of control. Your party will never reach too much higher than the values listed in the DMG, page 135, for wealth per level. [/QUOTE]

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