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<blockquote data-quote="CruelSummerLord" data-source="post: 4145406" data-attributes="member: 48692">My major dislike stems from the fact that, as previous posters have stated, the CR system assumes a certain amount of magic items to buff the party's stats, and also that IMO magic items are too easy to manufacture.&nbsp; IMO, characters shouldn't be able to manufacture permanent magical items until they're at least 16th level.&nbsp; This keeps the number of actual magic items low, and avoids the 'Christmas tree' effect.&nbsp; That way, magic remains something special and out of the ordinary, and not just another tradeable commodity, which is something I personally hate.&nbsp; There should, IMO, be some sort of alternate or optional rules that can be used to address balance depending on what kind of game the DM wants to run.&nbsp; I myself would want a game where players treat +1 swords like cherished treasures, since for the most part they can't buy magic items aside from potions, low-level scrolls, and the very occasional magic wand.&nbsp; If you like this play style, great, but I don't.&nbsp; There should be at least some way of balancing things out depending on the play style different groups want to go for, instead of factoring in that PCs are supposed to have X number of magical bonuses by a given level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CruelSummerLord, post: 4145406, member: 48692"] My major dislike stems from the fact that, as previous posters have stated, the CR system assumes a certain amount of magic items to buff the party's stats, and also that IMO magic items are too easy to manufacture. IMO, characters shouldn't be able to manufacture permanent magical items until they're at least 16th level. This keeps the number of actual magic items low, and avoids the 'Christmas tree' effect. That way, magic remains something special and out of the ordinary, and not just another tradeable commodity, which is something I personally hate. There should, IMO, be some sort of alternate or optional rules that can be used to address balance depending on what kind of game the DM wants to run. I myself would want a game where players treat +1 swords like cherished treasures, since for the most part they can't buy magic items aside from potions, low-level scrolls, and the very occasional magic wand. If you like this play style, great, but I don't. There should be at least some way of balancing things out depending on the play style different groups want to go for, instead of factoring in that PCs are supposed to have X number of magical bonuses by a given level. [/QUOTE]

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