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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rikka66" data-source="post: 8093553" data-attributes="member: 7019937">I would not describe the negative reaction to 4e Dark Sun as "big" in any context besides "big among a few hardcore fans on some small forums."Edit: Let me add that, as snarky as this comes across, I don't want to belittle those hardcore fans. 4e Dark Sun does make some big fundamental changes  to the setting and concessions to the system it was made for. I understand someone not liking that. But I personally did, or found my own adjustments easy enough to fit in. Probably the biggest area I would agree with those hardcore fans was the treatment of the preserving and defiling system. Would definitely like a middle ground between 2e and 4e if they are porting to 5e.</blockquote>