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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 728107" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, first of all, before I complain, and lest we forget, let me say this...</p><p></p><p>THIS IS A WHOLE H3LL OF ALOT BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL MULTISHOT!</p><p></p><p>That said, I don't think that the penalty is steep enough at high levels. A -8 penalty isn't usually that big of a deal to a reasonably high level reasonably maximized archer against the vast majority of targets given that you probably have an attack bonus of above 30. Archers have no problem finding extra attack bonuses. Moreover, this feat means that on many occassions the archers standard attack action is more effective than his full attack action. A high level archer has the following full attack penalties -0/-5/-10/-15. I can think of many cases where I'd much rather accept -8/-8/-8/-8 as a penalty, and take a move action. First, the lack of additional critical hits is not a penalty against anything immune to critical hits. Second, if a -8 penalty results in a number close to 20, I'm probably going to do more damage multishotting than I am accepting a -10 and a -15 penalty for my third and forth shots. The feat actually implies that it is EASIER to shoot four arrows from a bow at the same time than it is to shoot four arrows in succession. </p><p></p><p>At the very least, the penalty for shooting arrows ought to be as harsh as the penalty for shooting your last arrow. So I would change the feat to -5 penalty cumulative per extra arrow. Even so, this would _still_ be a useful feat because it allows you to make multiple attacks when normally you could only make one and there would still be many times you'd want to do that even at a -15 penalty to hit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 728107, member: 4937"] Well, first of all, before I complain, and lest we forget, let me say this... THIS IS A WHOLE H3LL OF ALOT BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL MULTISHOT! That said, I don't think that the penalty is steep enough at high levels. A -8 penalty isn't usually that big of a deal to a reasonably high level reasonably maximized archer against the vast majority of targets given that you probably have an attack bonus of above 30. Archers have no problem finding extra attack bonuses. Moreover, this feat means that on many occassions the archers standard attack action is more effective than his full attack action. A high level archer has the following full attack penalties -0/-5/-10/-15. I can think of many cases where I'd much rather accept -8/-8/-8/-8 as a penalty, and take a move action. First, the lack of additional critical hits is not a penalty against anything immune to critical hits. Second, if a -8 penalty results in a number close to 20, I'm probably going to do more damage multishotting than I am accepting a -10 and a -15 penalty for my third and forth shots. The feat actually implies that it is EASIER to shoot four arrows from a bow at the same time than it is to shoot four arrows in succession. At the very least, the penalty for shooting arrows ought to be as harsh as the penalty for shooting your last arrow. So I would change the feat to -5 penalty cumulative per extra arrow. Even so, this would _still_ be a useful feat because it allows you to make multiple attacks when normally you could only make one and there would still be many times you'd want to do that even at a -15 penalty to hit. [/QUOTE]
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