Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[3.P] Leadership, cohort and followers
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 6141054" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Powerful and/or charismatic leaders can very well have a "team of rivals", sometimes literally fighting for their favor. It happens in history all the time. There might even be assassinations (depending on personalities, alignments, etc). Another reason not to have evil PCs!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You get followers by level (usually far lower-level, but they're not all the same level), so I figure any higher-level or charismatic follower would become a lieutenant of sorts, even if this isn't called out by the cohort or leader.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're not necessarily going to be friendly with the boss. The cohort might be worthy of friendship or respect, or not. Maybe the cohort is prejudiced in some way. Perhaps the leader is a sorcerer, and his cohort is a fighter, and said fighter doesn't like spellcasters except for their leader. So they treat their 1st-level wizard subordinates like dirt. That could happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, picture a real-life scenario. I'm thinking cabinet ministers or secretaries, but any sort of organization where there's several powerful people all of about the same rank would do. Since the party members presumably like each other, the followers aren't likely to be hostile, but rivalries or personal issues could erupt. The druid and rogue might be aggravated because they've both got a cohort who hates their opposite number, even though the druid and rogue get along... as an example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do these extra feats require Leadership as a requirement? IMO that's not reasonable, you could end up with a very long "chain" of followers.</p><p></p><p>I empathize with Stereofm's position, but IMO, nobody but the cohort should be showing up on the battlefield. A 6th-level paladin and his 4th-level cohort might be acceptable, but not a dozen 1st-level paladins-in-training. Those guys should be in town, or carrying on other adventures, and in short acting in a support role.</p><p></p><p>Adding a cohort actually does gum up the battlefield a bit, but so do summons, charmed monsters, animal companions, and what have you... and they do so much less than a dozen followers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 6141054, member: 1165"] Powerful and/or charismatic leaders can very well have a "team of rivals", sometimes literally fighting for their favor. It happens in history all the time. There might even be assassinations (depending on personalities, alignments, etc). Another reason not to have evil PCs! You get followers by level (usually far lower-level, but they're not all the same level), so I figure any higher-level or charismatic follower would become a lieutenant of sorts, even if this isn't called out by the cohort or leader. You're not necessarily going to be friendly with the boss. The cohort might be worthy of friendship or respect, or not. Maybe the cohort is prejudiced in some way. Perhaps the leader is a sorcerer, and his cohort is a fighter, and said fighter doesn't like spellcasters except for their leader. So they treat their 1st-level wizard subordinates like dirt. That could happen. Again, picture a real-life scenario. I'm thinking cabinet ministers or secretaries, but any sort of organization where there's several powerful people all of about the same rank would do. Since the party members presumably like each other, the followers aren't likely to be hostile, but rivalries or personal issues could erupt. The druid and rogue might be aggravated because they've both got a cohort who hates their opposite number, even though the druid and rogue get along... as an example. Do these extra feats require Leadership as a requirement? IMO that's not reasonable, you could end up with a very long "chain" of followers. I empathize with Stereofm's position, but IMO, nobody but the cohort should be showing up on the battlefield. A 6th-level paladin and his 4th-level cohort might be acceptable, but not a dozen 1st-level paladins-in-training. Those guys should be in town, or carrying on other adventures, and in short acting in a support role. Adding a cohort actually does gum up the battlefield a bit, but so do summons, charmed monsters, animal companions, and what have you... and they do so much less than a dozen followers. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[3.P] Leadership, cohort and followers
Top