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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doctor Proctor" data-source="post: 4515992" data-attributes="member: 78547">Yes, when you compare two weapons of the same type (eg- Military -vs- Military, or Superior -vs- Superior) the 2H version is more powerful than the 1H version.  The Versatile use will lie somewhere in between.Ex: p218 of the PHBA Battleaxe is a versatile 1H weapon that does 1d10 of damage.  So it will do between 1 and 10 points 1H, and between 2 and 11 points held as a 2H.A Greataxe is a 2H axe that does 1d12 damage, meaning it will do between 1 and 12 damage.  While that might have the same average as the versatile Battleaxe, it's also a high crit weapon.Other weapons, like flails and hammers, have a 1d10 for the 1H version, and 2d6 for the 2H version.  So again, the 2H will beat out the versatile 1H version because you're looking at 2-12 versus 2-11 for the versatile 1H.The only place this kind of breaks down is with the swords, because you're going from 1d8 for 1H to 1d10 for 2H.  1d8+1 versus 1d10 come out to the same average damage.However, with swords you have the second option of the Falchion.  It does 2d4 damage and is a high crit weapon.  So while it's damage is only 2-8 versus 2-9 for the versatile longsword, it's a high crit weapon which means it will do a lot more damage when it crits.As was mentioned above, the Adventurer's Vault items are similarly balanced...and since they added to the Superior weapons there's now things that balance out items like the Bastard Sword.  Plus, there's nothing stopping a Fighter from taking a 1H weapon, wielding it versatile, and then using it as a 2H to get more benefit out of powers like Reaping Strike or feats like Power Attack.  He would just have to always use it as versatile or he would lose the bonuses.</blockquote>

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