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<blockquote data-quote="apesamongus" data-source="post: 2020669" data-attributes="member: 27703"><p>I don't really care what it's shaped like. There's just the section on pricing items that says...</p><p></p><p>"Multiple Similar Abilities: For items with multiple similar abilities that don’t take up space on a character’s body use the following formula: Calculate the price of the single most costly ability, then add 75% of the value of the next most costly ability, plus one-half the value of any other abilities."</p><p></p><p>Now, there is nothing in that description that states that this discount is limited only to staves or charged items, but there is also nothing that clarifies exactly what it does apply to - and doing some reverse engineering of prices, the only things I can find are staves.</p><p></p><p>To complicate things, The Rules of the Game says this...</p><p></p><p>"Multiple Similar Abilities Versus Multiple Different Abilities: An item with multiple similar abilities costs much less than an item with multiple different abilities, so what's the difference? In this case, "similar" abilities are functions that draw from the same pool of charges, or that can't be used at the same time (or at least don't provide a great deal of extra benefit if they are used together), or all of the above. Sometimes, an item has powers that receive this similar abilities price reduction when the item's multiple powers work together to produce an overall effect, or when an item's powers must be activated separately, but that's fairly rare."</p><p></p><p>Well, apart from offering a really bizarre definition of the word "similar", this doesn't really help clarify things. For instance, "or that can't be used at the same time (or at least don't provide a great deal of extra benefit if they are used together)" is helplessly vague. I would say that an item that allowed you to fly and breate water at the same time (for example) certainly qualifies as not providing a great deal of extra benefit when used together. But then, the ability to cast both fireball and flamestrike once per day would qualify as well, under the "can't be used at the same time" clause. Pretty much any two charges per day spells would qualify as not being usable at the same time - unless there is some subtlity behind "can't be used at the same time" that I'm not getting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="apesamongus, post: 2020669, member: 27703"] I don't really care what it's shaped like. There's just the section on pricing items that says... "Multiple Similar Abilities: For items with multiple similar abilities that don’t take up space on a character’s body use the following formula: Calculate the price of the single most costly ability, then add 75% of the value of the next most costly ability, plus one-half the value of any other abilities." Now, there is nothing in that description that states that this discount is limited only to staves or charged items, but there is also nothing that clarifies exactly what it does apply to - and doing some reverse engineering of prices, the only things I can find are staves. To complicate things, The Rules of the Game says this... "Multiple Similar Abilities Versus Multiple Different Abilities: An item with multiple similar abilities costs much less than an item with multiple different abilities, so what's the difference? In this case, "similar" abilities are functions that draw from the same pool of charges, or that can't be used at the same time (or at least don't provide a great deal of extra benefit if they are used together), or all of the above. Sometimes, an item has powers that receive this similar abilities price reduction when the item's multiple powers work together to produce an overall effect, or when an item's powers must be activated separately, but that's fairly rare." Well, apart from offering a really bizarre definition of the word "similar", this doesn't really help clarify things. For instance, "or that can't be used at the same time (or at least don't provide a great deal of extra benefit if they are used together)" is helplessly vague. I would say that an item that allowed you to fly and breate water at the same time (for example) certainly qualifies as not providing a great deal of extra benefit when used together. But then, the ability to cast both fireball and flamestrike once per day would qualify as well, under the "can't be used at the same time" clause. Pretty much any two charges per day spells would qualify as not being usable at the same time - unless there is some subtlity behind "can't be used at the same time" that I'm not getting. [/QUOTE]
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