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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 3244075" data-attributes="member: 12037">Aside from the laborous character creation guidelines:Games 1 & 2) Too many PCs. I like lots of individual attention for everyone in the group. Five PCs is about the max I want to do again. I don't like the expansion stuff at all. Game 3) Starting at first level is going to get a "Have fun with that" out of me. A first level PC rolling around in 10th level adventures? No thanks.Game 1) I find the death penalty thing interesting, befitting a very hack and slash / dungeoneering game where you want to move on quickly without having to go through the whole process of dragging the body back, raising, and returning. Taking out book keeping is a very good thing! This would also allow the DM to make much more difficult encounters, which is also a very good thing!Here's how it is in my current game:Character creation: 32 point buy, Core + ask the DM (most thing will be allowed).Death Penalty: No level loss on raise dead and ressurection, instead XP goes into a "debt" which is paid back instead of the PC gaining any XP. After the debt is paid off, they start gaining xp as normal again (to reduce book keeping).Replacement: New PCs come in at Level-1 of old PC with DMG wealth.Loot: Do whatever you want with it.Switching characters: This has never come up, actually.</blockquote>