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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rogueboy" data-source="post: 5206212" data-attributes="member: 61742">Not a problem, I've been running a bit hectic as well, so I understand perfectly well <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />. Thanks for replying!Alright, I'll admit that I underestimated an immunity to sleep, probably because I have never run into any campaigns that use any sleep effects more powerful than the Sleep spell, and that includes things up to and including low epic and demon/devil lords. Well, the specific example was less relevant to what I was trying to get across than the fact that there are useless racial abilities (as you mentioned, a +2 to climb, or a bonus language).I agree with this wholeheartedly, and incorporate that into every game that I run (and suggest it to the DM if I'm playing).Perhaps I'm misremembering, but the last time I saw a discussion on this, I thought the conclusion (of at least a slight majority of those involved) was that because it's a lower proportion of the total attack bonus, it's less relevant at higher levels (a contributing factor to the suckiness of Weapon Focus). I couldn't provide a source for that, as I can't even remember which forum I read it on, much less when I read it.My goal is to increase the power level of the base races, across the board. I do not feel the need to keep the default racial abilities presented in the PHB. I am of the opinion that at levels 1-3 (roughly) the PCs are too squishy to be able to take much of a hit, and combats are far too swingy for my liking. For this reason, I've altered starting HP, but I have no problem with a further increase to provide a more interesting decision to race.This is the crux of the race-relevance problem. Racial feats are an option that I have been considering, though your suggestion to give bonus racial feat slots hadn't occurred to me so I'll have to throw that into my list of possible solutions. While I want race to be important, and be a distinguishing 2 characters with the same class but different races, I would hope to avoid issues where there are more similarities than differences between 2 characters with the same race but different classes (more an issue with similar classes, ie Fighter vs Ranger), at least at low levels.Hopefully this helps you understand what I'm trying to do with the new racial abilities a bit better.</blockquote>

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