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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7187317" data-attributes="member: 518">Exactly. 2E sold a pile of material. TSR was run into the ground by poor management and crazy financial decisions, which did involve 2E product sometimes. But it was certainly a success. Enough so that WOTC had to do reprints of many 2E books until 3E surfaced.There was alot of spew from Propaganda Minister Dancey* out there when WOTC took over, and of course WOTC was in a situation where they were not sure what 3.0 and the D20 license was going to do and had to "sell" it to retailers, distributors, current fans, and fans who had moved on for one reason or another (whether rules, or TSR policies, etc)  And "the numbers people" and managers who were @TSR that did not move on to WOTC/Paizo have disputed plenty of Dancey's claims about numbers, so I expect the truth lies somewhere in between.*Nothing personal against him, I am thankful for his foresight and work on the OGL licensing and such. But it was his job to make the days of TSR look bad (or worse), and the future under Wonderkids of the Coast look like The Seven Heavens of Celestia.</blockquote>