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<blockquote data-quote="Gorgoroth" data-source="post: 6259314" data-attributes="member: 6674889">I'm saying that Tolkien took real life halflings with which he was familiar with, at least on principle, and imagined an entire race of them, and what they might be like. He took something that exists in reality, and modified it to his story. The rational basis for comparison between &quot;regular&quot; human movement rate and that of a dwarf, must either be based on reality, or on your own opinion. And if you base your opinions on analogs in real life, then you would probably conclude that dwarfs, gnomes, and halflings, should move slower than humans and elves.The actual thing that's silly here is imagining the speed of leg motion of someone 3 feet tall compared to a 6 foot tall person, running with the same speed. That's comical, and actually quite offensive.Giving halflings the same speed as humans is patronizing and offensive to me. It's anti-intellectual, has no basis in either reality OR fantasy, and I consider it not only an insult to D&amp;D trying to assign reasonable values to such things like racial average speeds, but also to its players' intelligence. I find it insulting to consider playing a game where halflings, dwarves, and gnomes walk as quickly as humans, on the basis of communistic / socialistic everybody must be given a level playing field, because otherwise life is unfair and we can't have that. We can't recognize that. We can't admit that there are those with advantages and disadvantages, and that not everyone is created equal. Because that would make D&amp;D a game suitable for adults, instead of children.Mod Note:&nbsp; Suggestion that a game design is part of a political mindset, is a pretty clear violation of our no-politics rule.&nbsp;&nbsp; The post has been noted, and will be handled by the moderators.&nbsp; Please don't respond to rudeness with more rudeness.&nbsp; Thank you.&nbsp; ~Umbran</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gorgoroth, post: 6259314, member: 6674889"] I'm saying that Tolkien took real life halflings with which he was familiar with, at least on principle, and imagined an entire race of them, and what they might be like. He took something that exists in reality, and modified it to his story. The rational basis for comparison between "regular" human movement rate and that of a dwarf, must either be based on reality, or on your own opinion. And if you base your opinions on analogs in real life, then you would probably conclude that dwarfs, gnomes, and halflings, should move slower than humans and elves. The actual thing that's silly here is imagining the speed of leg motion of someone 3 feet tall compared to a 6 foot tall person, running with the same speed. That's comical, and actually quite offensive. Giving halflings the same speed as humans is patronizing and offensive to me. It's anti-intellectual, has no basis in either reality OR fantasy, and I consider it not only an insult to D&D trying to assign reasonable values to such things like racial average speeds, but also to its players' intelligence. I find it insulting to consider playing a game where halflings, dwarves, and gnomes walk as quickly as humans, on the basis of communistic / socialistic everybody must be given a level playing field, because otherwise life is unfair and we can't have that. We can't recognize that. We can't admit that there are those with advantages and disadvantages, and that not everyone is created equal. Because that would make D&D a game suitable for adults, instead of children. [color=red][B]Mod Note:[/B] Suggestion that a game design is part of a political mindset, is a pretty clear violation of our no-politics rule. The post has been noted, and will be handled by the moderators. Please don't respond to rudeness with more rudeness. Thank you. ~Umbran[/color] [/QUOTE]

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