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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 4770421" data-attributes="member: 3586">Possibly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I'm a big fan of co-operative games that have a traitor. So, not quite co-operative... yay, finally played BSG as a Cylon on the weekend! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />However, I do hear what you're saying. I agree with a lot of what you say. I have a feeling that because I'm very attuned to solving the sort of puzzle-game that Pandemic is, it isn't as impressive to me as it would be to many others. (It's possibly the one type of puzzle-game that I am attuned to... anyway...)I don't think you're a heretic. Agricola without the cards is a very impressive game. My reading of what the cards add is this: they provide a way to vary your play of the game. They reward you if you step aside from a "rote" way of playing the game and concentrate on areas that you wouldn't normally take. So, if you normally are the grain farmer of the game (that's normally me), if you get the Spindle, you can play a game as the shepherd instead and be rewarded for changing your choices.My preferred way of playing with the cards is using the draft format, btw.However, the level of complexity (and consequent loss of balance) the cards add to Agricola is definitely something that newer players should avoid, and, for some, continue to avoid. The game is good enough without the cards; the cards keep the game from being "solvable" in the same way that "Puerto Rico" or "Caylus" have been solved (to a large extent). (Consider the effect the order of power plants arriving has on a game of Power Grid...)Still, both Pandemic and Agricola are rather exceptional games. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Oops!Cheers!</blockquote>

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