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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 588164" data-attributes="member: 1757">Uh, beg pardon?First off, this is a campaign involving 36th-level evil characters. In such a campaign, one needs to expect some pretty nasty characters.Second, this character doesn't have "all that crap," as you put it. This character has three perfectly related classes. All the feats involved come from core rules, the FRCS, or the ELH, and they're feats that any wizard in his right mind would take. As for the character concept: Isn't that rather obvious? This character is a powerful, no doubt respected (check out that Charisma!) Thayan archmage, probably the de facto zulkir of the Transmutation school, who either has plans to unify Thay under his own control (Szass Tam, move over!) or is so far advanced along the road to power that he doesn't even care about wordly matters in the Realms any more. It is a natural for an evil magically-talented human from Thay to take levels in the Red Wizard PrC; it's just as natural for a high-level Red Wizard to decide to become an archmage, as the very idea of the archmage PrC is that it is the route of wizards who have reached the top of their profession and are looking for something more. Third, the plane-traveling archmage and the evil archwizard bad guy both are staples of fantasy fiction. They may be hackneyed concepts, but they're certainly coherent, far more so than most of the smackdown characters on the SoS thread. Many smackdown characters tend to be uneasy amalgams of five different classes and PrCs (look a couple of posts up from this); this one has obeyed a pretty straightforward route. The Leadership feats also have a strong RP justification; if you're at the pinnacle of your class, and the main focus of your class and the special magical abilities it confers is to lead a RW circle, aren't you going to acquire some RW cohorts to be part of that circle?In short, I find your criticism misplaced and rather knee-jerk. Is the character min-maxed? Of course. Is he an unreasonable munchkin? No, unless you find that the circle magic and spell power rules are unbalanced, in which case this character makes use of unbalanced rules, which makes him (I'll grant) a munchkin. YMMV.</blockquote>

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