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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 3737658" data-attributes="member: 11760">Windows hasn't been on a steady path toward better versions for a long time now. The last inarguable upgrade, IMO, was 95 to 98. The next few versions after that were varying degrees of mess, until XP came along. And let's not forget the wonderful sideshow that was Microsoft Bob.And 3E is definitely an upgrade in many ways over 1E and 2E, in that it streamlined die rolls and brought most everything under a single unified system. It's worth noting that C&amp;C and other &quot;back to 1E&quot; spin-offs didn't do away with the core changes, which I'd say is a pretty clear declaration that 3E is an improvement in multiple key ways.And 2E ... well, you've got your BD&amp;D clone, your 1E and even OD&amp;D clones. No 2E clones, though, and it's hard to come up with a convincing reason other than &quot;yech&quot; as to why not.Now, it remains to be seen if 4E is another XP or another Bob, but they're talking the good talk on a number of issues that people here have long expressed concern about. At the very least, they seem aware of most of the problems with 3E. The big question is if they've figured out the solutions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 3737658, member: 11760"] Windows hasn't been on a steady path toward better versions for a long time now. The last inarguable upgrade, IMO, was 95 to 98. The next few versions after that were varying degrees of mess, until XP came along. And let's not forget the wonderful sideshow that was Microsoft Bob. And 3E is definitely an upgrade in many ways over 1E and 2E, in that it streamlined die rolls and brought most everything under a single unified system. It's worth noting that C&C and other "back to 1E" spin-offs didn't do away with the core changes, which I'd say is a pretty clear declaration that 3E is an improvement in multiple key ways. And 2E ... well, you've got your BD&D clone, your 1E and even OD&D clones. No 2E clones, though, and it's hard to come up with a convincing reason other than "yech" as to why not. Now, it remains to be seen if 4E is another XP or another Bob, but they're talking the good talk on a number of issues that people here have long expressed concern about. At the very least, they seem aware of most of the problems with 3E. The big question is if they've figured out the solutions. [/QUOTE]

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