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Message: <blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 5020010" data-attributes="member: 25619">Trying . . . hard . . . to . . . resist . . . academic pissing contest.Then we're both aware of self-selection bias.  But this is not a poll on Paizo or WOTC's message board's, or even specific 3e or 4e sections of this site -- this is as neutral grounds as there is.  There are two separate polls, each tagged as a poll about its edition, each with the same answer set.So the self-selection bias is in people answering the poll being more passionate than average -- because they are here, and because they answered a poll.No one has made an argument for why the self-selection bias should be skewed, other than in a more passionate way (thus under reporting "don't know" and "don't care" answers).So, unless you've got some other point you're not explaining, the "these polls are all completely worthless" arguments are incorrect.A better argument is the one that a lot more people answered the 4e than the 3e poll.  What exactly that tells us, I'm not sure.  Perhaps it means that it would be interesting to compare the absolute numbers for each answer on the two polls, rather than comparing percentages.  I haven't checked the math on that but it might be interesting.Of course, you could just say you don't like the topic, but that's not the same as saying, as you basically are, that the polls are crap and the people who wrote them (me and someone else for 4e) and who compare them are mathematically illiterate and/or liars.</blockquote>

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