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<blockquote data-quote="Hairfoot" data-source="post: 5022966" data-attributes="member: 23732"><p>You think 4chan did this? After Rickrolling MTV and trolling Oprah like pros, would /tg/ bother messing with a poll on ENworld?</p><p></p><p>I may have recently donned a Guy Fawkes mask to protest against a certain sci-fi church, and if I did (for, lo, that church is litigious) I can tell you that this is an unlikely scenario.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a strong possibility, but there are far more effective <a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm" target="_blank">grenades </a>to throw to achieve that. No, I think this is a deliberate attempt to misrepresent popular opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It applies to the group of fans that hacked the poll. If you can show me where 3E has been boosted artificially in a poll, I’ll criticise that too.</p><p></p><p>You’re shadow boxing with the fans-versus-fans bit. I have no interest in that and haven’t brought it into the discussion. It’s your concern alone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That’s a recurrent theme in your posts. Do you believe that hacking the poll is a legitimate response to criticism of 4E?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not the only one. Just the one that best fits the available evidence. </p><p></p><p>You’ll recall that I think it’s most likely an automated spam program, probably run by a single person, but we don’t know. It’s just as likely to be the result of a hundred 4E fans each registering five “love 4E”/”hate 3E” votes.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Other posters have addressed that statement and found it inaccurate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven’t mentioned friends of mine, so, like the fan war thing, that’s entirely your own invention, with no quotation marks necessary. Also, the mods here tend to crack down on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2%80%93aggressive_behavior" target="_blank">passive-aggressiveness</a>, so try to keep your comments respectful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Where? Where did I claim or, even imply, a conspiracy, vast or otherwise? If only there were enough tabletop gamers for a conspiracy to be possible!</p><p></p><p>No, I’ve said twice now that it’s probably a single loser at play, but we just don’t know. Even so, a broad swathe of anxious, would-be 4E boosters doesn’t make a conspiracy.</p><p></p><p>ENworld represents Dungeons & Dragons players from a range of ages, nations, editions and philosophies, but – on current evidence – fans of only one edition will go to the trouble of sabotaging polls to misrepresent its popularity.</p><p></p><p>It’s obtuse to deny the significance of this development. 4E bestrides the RPG market like a colossus and, if these boards are to be believed, is, objectively, the best roleplaying game ever published. But despite that popularity, some of its fans (and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/268998-how-many-gamers-you-know-post-forums.html" target="_blank">we know</a> that the online community represents a far greater number) fear that it isn’t popular enough.</p><p></p><p>I only want to know what’s motivating all that anxiety.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: and 1000 posts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hairfoot, post: 5022966, member: 23732"] You think 4chan did this? After Rickrolling MTV and trolling Oprah like pros, would /tg/ bother messing with a poll on ENworld? I may have recently donned a Guy Fawkes mask to protest against a certain sci-fi church, and if I did (for, lo, that church is litigious) I can tell you that this is an unlikely scenario. That's a strong possibility, but there are far more effective [URL="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm"]grenades [/URL]to throw to achieve that. No, I think this is a deliberate attempt to misrepresent popular opinion. It applies to the group of fans that hacked the poll. If you can show me where 3E has been boosted artificially in a poll, I’ll criticise that too. You’re shadow boxing with the fans-versus-fans bit. I have no interest in that and haven’t brought it into the discussion. It’s your concern alone. That’s a recurrent theme in your posts. Do you believe that hacking the poll is a legitimate response to criticism of 4E? Not the only one. Just the one that best fits the available evidence. You’ll recall that I think it’s most likely an automated spam program, probably run by a single person, but we don’t know. It’s just as likely to be the result of a hundred 4E fans each registering five “love 4E”/”hate 3E” votes. Other posters have addressed that statement and found it inaccurate. I haven’t mentioned friends of mine, so, like the fan war thing, that’s entirely your own invention, with no quotation marks necessary. Also, the mods here tend to crack down on [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2%80%93aggressive_behavior"]passive-aggressiveness[/URL], so try to keep your comments respectful. Where? Where did I claim or, even imply, a conspiracy, vast or otherwise? If only there were enough tabletop gamers for a conspiracy to be possible! No, I’ve said twice now that it’s probably a single loser at play, but we just don’t know. Even so, a broad swathe of anxious, would-be 4E boosters doesn’t make a conspiracy. ENworld represents Dungeons & Dragons players from a range of ages, nations, editions and philosophies, but – on current evidence – fans of only one edition will go to the trouble of sabotaging polls to misrepresent its popularity. It’s obtuse to deny the significance of this development. 4E bestrides the RPG market like a colossus and, if these boards are to be believed, is, objectively, the best roleplaying game ever published. But despite that popularity, some of its fans (and [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/268998-how-many-gamers-you-know-post-forums.html"]we know[/URL] that the online community represents a far greater number) fear that it isn’t popular enough. I only want to know what’s motivating all that anxiety. EDIT: and 1000 posts. [/QUOTE]
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