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Message: <blockquote data-quote="N0Man" data-source="post: 5023668" data-attributes="member: 64066">That's not really what I'm trying to say, and that might be my fault not being skilled enough in expressing myself clearly.  I'm trying to separate the "edition war" and the animosity towards the respective editions.  I think they are two different (albeit related) issues.I agree that much of the warring has got to do with how people have treated eachother, and I'm not trying to say one side is better or worse in this regard.  I really would like to see people be able to come to terms and be able to coexist peacefully without extreme contreversy, and it's not my attempt to fan any flames.I'm not even trying to suggest that there aren't actual "3E Haters", though I've had no personal experience with them.  I'm merely presenting the argument that completely seperated from the personal arguments and heated debates that have occurred in these edition wars, the actual honest hate and spite towards the actual game editions themselves (not towards other players) does seem heavily weighted to one side.  In fact, I frequently see 3E supporters point this phenomon out as well, and use it to argue that it is proof that 4E is more flawed, because more people actually hate it than 3E.Also, I wouldn't use the word invalid regarding their feelings, but I did say irrational.  I completely stand by saying that the outright utter hatred and contempt is irrational.  Being annoyed, dissapointed, or critical is completely understandable but much of the hate goes way beyond that.  There is hatred and vitriol.  It's not even really surprising, it's a common human reaction when something you value or tie to your own identity feels threatened.  So on some level it's understandable, and I certainly wouldn't use the word "invalid", but that doesn't make it rational.I am sure there are overzealous fans on both sides that really hate the other edition, and I'd consider them equally as irrational.What I'm trying to say is put the actual edition war aside, and the squabbles of fans and who did what to who.  Forget about that a moment and consider the question of which side logically would feel like they have more to lose by the introduction of a new edition.  People who don't like the new edition, and who realize that their preferred edition will lose a great amount of future support, that their community will become fractured and they will lose potential players to the new edition, and feel like a game that they prized has been somehow insulted or injured.  They are more naturally going to feel bitter towards the new edition and likely going to see it for even worse than it really is.On the other hand, those who prefer the new edition don't have a reason to be threatened by the introduction of a new version.  They might get overzealous and try to convert the players of the old version (because they want to play their version too), and they might get defensive from the attacks of those who hate their version, but there's not really an emotional investment that is being challenged by the introduction of a new version that would cause them to be very likely to have extreme hatred for the old version.  It's more likely going to be a mild to moderate distaste, or maybe even mixed feelings.  However, most of their hostility would be directed towards the supporters of the old system (and critics of the new system), not the edition itself, since that's not the actual threat.That is what I mean by the actual *edition hate* being *mostly* one sided.  It's not a defense or criticism of either side exactly, just more of an inevitable result of the way our minds work.I'm not claiming that hostility of player to player has been one-sided.</blockquote>

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