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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5027344" data-attributes="member: 957">Races playing a larger role in defining a character was one of the 4E previews that sounded really great to me.&nbsp; In practice it was right there in the top ten of the list of things that 4E promised&nbsp; but really missed the mark on from my point of view.&nbsp; Yes, there are most certainly differences in 4E.&nbsp; The advantages that 4E most certainly DOES have are quite well canceled out by the limitations.&nbsp; I'd call it a wash at best.But the idea that they are mechanically &quot;all alike&quot; in 3E is foolish.&nbsp; And then once you get past core and get into things like racial classes and other cool things that a thriving 3PP environment yielded and for my money D20 OGL is leagues above when it comes to racial creativity.On monster races, it is even worse.&nbsp; The flavor of the race comes bolted on.&nbsp; A good DM doesn't need the crutch and can do vastly more variation.&nbsp; Certainly the crutch can help a bad DM perform like an ok DM as long as they stay on script.&nbsp; I'll take the good DM though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5027344, member: 957"] Races playing a larger role in defining a character was one of the 4E previews that sounded really great to me. In practice it was right there in the top ten of the list of things that 4E promised but really missed the mark on from my point of view. Yes, there are most certainly differences in 4E. The advantages that 4E most certainly DOES have are quite well canceled out by the limitations. I'd call it a wash at best. But the idea that they are mechanically "all alike" in 3E is foolish. And then once you get past core and get into things like racial classes and other cool things that a thriving 3PP environment yielded and for my money D20 OGL is leagues above when it comes to racial creativity. On monster races, it is even worse. The flavor of the race comes bolted on. A good DM doesn't need the crutch and can do vastly more variation. Certainly the crutch can help a bad DM perform like an ok DM as long as they stay on script. I'll take the good DM though. [/QUOTE]

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