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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7850831" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for pointing out virtually EVERYTHING that I hated about 3e! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Hopefully this thread gets stickied so if/when I'm asked "What do you have against 3e?", I can just point them here.</p><p></p><p>I'm not kidding though...virtually everything that was listed as 'reasons' was something I either wasn't keen on or outright found anathema to my preferred "flavour of how a D&D game should run and how a D&D campaign should evolve". Now, just to be clear, I wasn't a huge fan of 2e either...we played it for a few years (somewhere between 2 and 3'ish; not solid after about the 2 year mark). Even when we DID play 2e, there were a lot of 1e things we just preferred...so, like many others, we ran a 'hybrid' 2e game. Not the other way around though. When we played 1e and when we went back to it, it as 1e almost entirely.</p><p></p><p>This just goes to show you...different strokes for different folks! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I'm glad 3e found a market (really, I am), I'm just disappointed in how it completely fractured the "older players from the newborns". Just look back at any forums or usenet's and see the strife and vitriol betwen the 1e/2e players and the 3e ones! I think Johnathan here is seeing 3e through rose-coloured-glasses...it all seems wonderful and totally what 'everyone wanted' because it was what he wanted and enjoyed. Just like I have no delusions that when I look back at my 1e/Hackmaster/BECMI games I see then as superior to people's who played 3.x, Pathfinder, 4e and even 5e.</p><p></p><p>Anyway. Thanks again for the write up! It will be useful, that's for sure! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 7850831, member: 45197"] Hiya! Thank you for pointing out virtually EVERYTHING that I hated about 3e! :) Hopefully this thread gets stickied so if/when I'm asked "What do you have against 3e?", I can just point them here. I'm not kidding though...virtually everything that was listed as 'reasons' was something I either wasn't keen on or outright found anathema to my preferred "flavour of how a D&D game should run and how a D&D campaign should evolve". Now, just to be clear, I wasn't a huge fan of 2e either...we played it for a few years (somewhere between 2 and 3'ish; not solid after about the 2 year mark). Even when we DID play 2e, there were a lot of 1e things we just preferred...so, like many others, we ran a 'hybrid' 2e game. Not the other way around though. When we played 1e and when we went back to it, it as 1e almost entirely. This just goes to show you...different strokes for different folks! ;) I'm glad 3e found a market (really, I am), I'm just disappointed in how it completely fractured the "older players from the newborns". Just look back at any forums or usenet's and see the strife and vitriol betwen the 1e/2e players and the 3e ones! I think Johnathan here is seeing 3e through rose-coloured-glasses...it all seems wonderful and totally what 'everyone wanted' because it was what he wanted and enjoyed. Just like I have no delusions that when I look back at my 1e/Hackmaster/BECMI games I see then as superior to people's who played 3.x, Pathfinder, 4e and even 5e. Anyway. Thanks again for the write up! It will be useful, that's for sure! ;) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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